[PS3] Cooking Guide: Can't Decide What To Eat? PROTIP: THIS IS THE MGS4 THREAD

What I'd like to know is, will this game finally, FINALLY have multiple audio tracks, so I don't have to listen to the english voicetrack?
While it might not be bad per se for a videogame it absolutely PALES in comparison to the japanese one...

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Aardark

No it doesn't, you're just a weeaboo.

I prefer the term "elitist prick", but thanks for the roses. :P

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by Hantei

It also looks like the lips/mouth-movements will be somewhat insync with the english performances. So it might kinda weird/awkward when you switch to the japanese track. Anyway, assuming it's not included, you could always just import the Japanese version of game if you want the japanese track that badly (remember region free on games).

A piece of speculation: As this material is probably rendered in real time in the game's own engine maybe they've implemented a code that lipsyncs automatically. I've read something about such stuff before, maybe they're doing it here. Or they just sync it for every voice track seperately...

Hmm... But if the PAL release doesn't have the Japanese voice track on it, I'll probably go for an import at a later date. Just for being a total MGS fanboi.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Slayer X

Which is fine for me at least because while Snake's VA may not be accurate for his age, you lose all the other russian, and other foreign accents by going to the Jap VAs.

That's one of the beefs I have with Snake Eater. It's set in Russia, yet everybody speaks totally perfect American English. Yes, they're actually all speaking russian, but it's not even hinted at. The soldiers in Sons of Liberty all had russian accents...

And, yes, I wouldn't have recognized this with a jap VA, but I doubt it would've bothered me there as much as it did with the English VA. :/

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

If you don't want that, then why exactly are you interested in MGS?

I was speaking idiomatically.

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Overall, Guns of the Patriots defaults to the same kind of third-person view as previous MGS installments.

Hu? No Snake Eater Subsistence style freely rotatable 3rd person cam any more?
If so, that's bad news.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Fingers crossed that games featuring antropomorphic antagonists aren't outlawed in Germany when it comes out... >_>

Am I the only one finding the ball-buster-knockout move a bit... I dunno... Strange? Seems this certain kind of slightly immature humour is seeping through more and more japanese media lately... (Or I'm just getting older... You never know...)

FELIPE NO

http://www.hmv.co.uk/hmvweb/displayP...;-1&sku=685930

What the hell is THIS now...?
Half a year of exclusivity? Or is this store just misinformed?

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

This Groszny Grad is a part of Metal Gear Online, not of Guns of the Patriots.
At least the screen above is. Don't know wether that actually translates to "Guns of the Patriots has a part in Groszny Grad". As no other real Metal Gear has yet revisited a locale of one of its predecessors, I think it somewhat unlikely.
Unless it's some "back to the source where it all began" thing. But even then they should probably rather go to Granin's buro...

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Wait what... Q4 of March? What does that mean? Fourth quarter of march? O_ô

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Boy do those girls' voiceovers sound silly. Like cheap anime dub. *sigh*
http://www.konami.jp/gs/kojima_pro/m...gc2007_jpn.asx
I really prefer the jap version now. If it's got english subtitles I just might order it, should there not be a japanese audio option with the PAL release.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Old Snake:

Spoiler:

That MIGHT have something to do with the YOUNG Snake they had appearing briefly in one of the trailers. So maybe there'll be an introduction sequence (ala the Tanker) where we play as Old Snake, and then we'll play as "Young Snake", or whatever that clone-face will be called.
Then again, maybe that was all just a joke / red herring, and there'll be no "Young Snake".
Though that "Old Snake" showing up there... I think there'll be another playable character, and as Kojima said, we'll be playing snake, it's probably the yung'un. I somewhat doubt they put yet another character up who "inherits" the Solid Snake codename.

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Originally Posted by SouthJag

Pretty bitchin' figure, Hantei.

In other news, MGS4's Japanese vocal track will be taken out of the US and Euro releases due to lack of disk space. I don't really care about the Japanese track, but I'm sure someone does. Anyone here?

Here. I was actually looking forward to getting the chance of finally for once play MGS with the japanese voices, which sound better (because I don't really understand what they're saying) in my ears.
I'm a bit disappointed that even with Bluray games are behind movies in terms of language options. I really think that should change, especially with japanese games, even if it's just for the tiny margin of people who actually want this.
And then I'm even more disappointed that the Japanese version doesn't include English subtitles. Seriously. Especially since PS3 is region free this is pretty much the finger given to import fans - unless they just expect import fans to speak japanese.

Ah well. This IS an issue to me, but only a minor one.
I can live perfectly well with the US cast. MGS always had top notch VO.

Now, if they just released the MGS PS3 bundle over here in Europe.... Which they apparently won't do... Not even a bundle with Dualshock 3 is planned... -_- THAT is actually a much bigger issue than the voicecast. Ah well...

I was speaking idiomatically.

Well, due to the game being a japanese piece of entertainment, I don't find japanese VO distracting at all.
That, and Snake having the same voice as Batou of Ghost in the Shell fame. I just like him / his less "urr action hero gruff" Snake better than Hayter's.
From what I've seen so far, there is some VO stuff in MGS4 that sounded better to me in Japanese though, and that is the Beauty and the Beast unit. But I guess they just sound as off to someone actually understanding what they say as the English VO of them sounds to me...
But - this REALLY is splitting hairs. MGS has always been loads and loads of fun for me. And I'll always keep the HORRIBLE (whorible) German version VO of MGS1 on PC in mind, which serves as my all time example of how a VO should NOT NO NAY NEVER sound like - and up till now is my prime reason to always avoid fully localized games here.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

29 hours not including cutscenes? Woah. Also not including codec conversations?
If so, then that is one long dong of an MGS. Or does that impression fool me...?

FELIPE NO

The last video game trailer I actually REMEMBER in theaters was for Command & Conquer - Red Alert. o_Ô

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Originally Posted by Aardark

Also, I think I'll have to avoid reading any games threads or sites until I get my copy. All the previous MGS games have been spoiled to me in some way, but this time I want to make sure it doesn't happen. It's gonna be awesome.

Same here. I'm already a bit disappointed to know the current version's "Freak Squad" (as in Foxhound, Dead Cell, Cobra Unit).
I've stopped watching trailers and reading too much of news about the game.
I knew pretty much every cool cutscene Snake Eater had before I had touched the game. I've already seen too much of Guns' cutscenes for my taste. I mean... I'm an self-admitted MGS fanboy. So why even bother spoiling the game for me?

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Given that after The Boss was defeated in MGS3, the game took more than an hour after that until the credits rolled, it's not THAT unlikely for an MGS game to have that long cutscenes.
And yes, it wasn't really a more then one hour cutscene, more like some cutscenes, codec conversations, a little interaction, and then more cutscenes and the credits.
It's something VERY few games do these days. At least, few games I know. Most just have a quick ending movie, and that's it. MGS is kinda old fashioned in that way. Which actually is a good thing. I like games that ARE the reward in themselves, but I also like a reward in form of a cutscene. Combine both for greatness.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Gaming has always been a pretty expensive hobby if you wanted to have a piece of current hardware. PC gaming being even worse in that specific department.
It all depends. You could of course buy a new game for 60 bucks, or go to 3 concerts, buy a number of DVDs, go to the movies, invest that sum in car parts, or whatever... Hobbies tend to cost money. And there's always bound to be someone with MORE money than me to spend on any given hobby, so there isn't really a good reason to go to whineland 'cause of that.

That promo soundtrack sure got my personal hype-meter up.
As I didn't follow the latest reports too closely, what's up with the different camera modes, they still there? At one point they demonstrated something like "GoW style cam, FPS cam, Subsistance style cam" to select from. Do we know if that's still there?

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

I think the track's name "Love Theme" is something of an understatement. Don't know wether that's deliberatly done or not, but "Love Theme" sounds like "oh yeah, well, the obligatory love theme, something generic with strings". Couldn't be more misleading.

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Eurogamer gives it a 8/10. Cue fanboy rage. This just further deepens my disagreement with most of EGs scores of late.
And no I haven't read the review. Way too spoilery.

I was speaking idiomatically.

True. As I said, it's not entirely rational, fanboyism that is.
For some reason I'd expect this game to score higher. But thinking about it (and checking the older scores) EG always scored the MGSs a little lower than others, Snake Eater (not Subsistence) also "just" scoring an 8.

It's this fanboy thing. I WANT the game to be good. And not just good, but mind blastingly amazing. So any hint that it won't be is a bit of a letdown and causes some not entirely thought through reactions. Especially since I don't exactly care about any kind of review. I'll buy this game anyway. And chances are, I'll like it a lot.

But this is just part of a bigger issue, basically that of gaming reviews and the scoring system in general. I think a system that's basically just a "thumbs up" or "thumbs down" would be something I favor. No more "yeah, but this racing game is .563% better than this shooter!"

But that's pretty much off topic now. Till now EGs review is the lowest score it's got so far. Other reviews are a lot more positive. But having read (other) reviews by people like tim rogers from pushactionbutton, this is probably not going to be the lowest score the game will get.
I mean, MGS4 seems - from what I can gather - to be following an very old fashioned formula, and adding several layers of glitz (and hopefully some improved controls) onto that. Personally, I'm not one of the people shunning "old fashoined" games that have a strict seperation between interactivity and narrative, or in general games that don't reinvent themselves with each iteration (and, which game actually DOES that anyway? Since IV that's not even something that can be said about Quake. )
But looking at a lot of criticism GTA IV got for example was mostly about that. Why play IV, it's III all over again with shiny graphics. Which is both true and false, but game reviews tend to always be highly subjective.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

I dunno if GFF has in fact changed that much. Didn't spend much time in the video game boards back then.
Thread "hiding"... Wtf...?

Reviews: The "japnanese weeaboo" (srsly, GFFchan?) pretty much made my point. The snide side remarks of the other prove the ridiculousness of whining or even the attempt at discussing review scores. Thanks a lot.
Still, I'm pretty much with the points Dennis Dyack makes here. But that's something worthy of its own thread...

FELIPE NO

Untagged spoilers in gaming forum titles are probably the best in that regard.
Interesting thing that the disc pictured above is either an european or actually a German disc. So here's to hoping I might get it early too. *_*

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Everybody knows Germany is somewhere between Iran and Persia. Don't lie! *_*

(Actually I stressed the german-ness of the disc due to my vague hope of getting my copy early as well, being German and all... )

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