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Gang raped by 7 men? That's 200 lashes
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Old Nov 21, 2007, 07:24 PM Local time: Nov 22, 2007, 01:24 AM 1 1 #1 of 121
Seems the OP forgot to mention that the rapists also got lashes and prison time.

No, that doesn't mean the court order isn't fucked up, as what happened almost goes to define what "fucked" up is, simply wanted to add that info for a more "ballanced discussion" ;p

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Old Nov 22, 2007, 06:29 PM Local time: Nov 23, 2007, 12:29 AM #2 of 121

For pointing out a fact that made the article look more fucked than it was?

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Old Nov 23, 2007, 04:59 AM Local time: Nov 23, 2007, 10:59 AM #3 of 121
Oh right, the rapists were brought to justice, that makes the victim being whipped by her government not so bad.
Did I say that it's fair? No

I said that the CNN article makes it look like the rapists got away free from any punishment what so ever, making us view their "justice" system to be so fucked up that it's pretty much advertising itself to the worlds rapists to come and live there, and it just more propaganda against the Islam state. Don't get me wrong, I think such religions where such irrational things are spouted as the way to God's salvation are fucking stupid (pretty much all religions out there), but it doesn't mean such blatant and stupid propaganda should be allowed to pass around without being questioned.

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Old Nov 23, 2007, 03:23 PM Local time: Nov 23, 2007, 09:23 PM 1 #4 of 121
They simply have some fucked up laws about not being alone in the company of a man that is not related by blood / matrimony.

Is it stupid (one could say that's putting it lightly) by western standards? Yes.
Will us sneering at them make a difference? Well, are the twin towers still standing?

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Old Nov 23, 2007, 05:14 PM Local time: Nov 23, 2007, 11:14 PM #5 of 121
Deni, I am not at all saying we should blindly accept it, as apathetic to such things as I am, I do recognise how vile a treatment it is towards a woman. My initial statement was simply to point out the lack of all the facts in the OP's quoted article.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Nov 26, 2007, 12:29 PM Local time: Nov 26, 2007, 06:29 PM #6 of 121
Here lets all read the article from a source that doesn't seem to bash Islam.

BBC NEWS | World | Middle East | Saudi rape victim 'having affair'

Ohh it even says in the BBC article that the guy who she was seeing outside of marriage got raped too, guess he learned his lesson eigh?

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
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Old Nov 26, 2007, 06:57 PM Local time: Nov 27, 2007, 12:57 AM #7 of 121
Why not judaism instead? They haven't done anything barbaric, have they?

Personally I say we spread hinduism instead. Cows anyone?
Well Christianity has done many a righteous invasion, so they kinda know what to do, I'm sure they have a little big book telling them of the God's way of purifying the heathens that do not see the light of the true God.

Tbh just seeing the ammount of crap I can fit into 1 sentence. I'm sure I could do more, but it's almost midnight.

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Old Nov 27, 2007, 12:24 PM Local time: Nov 27, 2007, 06:24 PM #8 of 121
So, overall story is:

Woman is cheating on her husband with some random bloke. 7 People turn up kidnap them, rape them and one of the rapists allegedly tapes it on his phone.

Now in order to get justice for being raped, the lying whore of a wife, goes to the police or whatever and tells them of the details.

Court hears it all out, including about the woman cheating, and punishes all the rapists with 5+ years in jail and several hundred lashes each and because the woman was cheating on her husband she got jail time and 90 lashes or whatever. Now she's unhappy for being brought to justice herself under the law that she lives and complains to the media about it. The courts, give her the royal middle finger and increase her lashes, but also at the same time increase the lashes and jail time of the actual rapists.

End of. Neh?

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Old Nov 27, 2007, 03:55 PM Local time: Nov 27, 2007, 09:55 PM 6 #9 of 121
a lurker, did I say or in any way indicate that I think she deserved a lashing? No, I said she was a whore, does that mean I think less of her? Yes. Does it implicitly say that I think she deserves a fucking beating? No, so stop putting your fucking interpretations as the righteous truth. Personally I am all for treating women fairly, but I'm not going to get in a pissy about something which is totally out of my control / care boundary.

What I wrote was a "summary of the events" that were portrayed to us by the media, as they happened, I spun it a lot of a fuck less than CNN.
Did you even read the BBC article (as you profess to have read about the case to a fair extent) to which I posted a link to? The BBC's sources say the woman admitted to have an extra marital affair with the guy who was found in the car with her. Her attackers sentences were also doubled you illiterate fuck. And in regards to the lashes? Well one of the articles I read, said the men got a combined total of 2000+ lashes, so now who the fuck you going to believe?

Ok, sorry, my mistake, the guy that was with her, that was kidnapped and also allegedly raped according to some sources, got 90 lashes, I forgot that detail from the BBC article.

And you forget, with so many interpretations from various media outfits, who is really portraying the actual truth?

You seriously have to question yourself, why would I seriously care about that girl? To me she's nothing more than some simple idea that will be forgotten sooner than you'd think. What I care more about is HM C&R loosing the data of 25million people in the fucking post. Why? Because it may affect me. For all I really care, she could’ve been murdered after she was raped, I know I wouldn’t loose any sleep over it. Am I a cold emotionless fuck to people I’ve never met? Yes. Does that bother me? Not in the slightest.

Ohh you want to know what I cared about recently? I cared about the fact that a pottential Plasma TV I was thinking of buying was in fact using almost twice the power of the similarly sized LCD TV. That I cared about. Why? Well I'd have a bigger electricity bill for one, and well, not a huge fan of pollution. And so because of that care, I went for LCD TV.

Apathy, I fucking love it.

Ohh, and insulting me by calling me a Bleach loving otaku? Seriously, just, seriously... try a lot harder, kk?

Ahh the fun.

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Old Nov 28, 2007, 02:27 AM Local time: Nov 28, 2007, 08:27 AM 1 #10 of 121
Just to feed the troll even more Saudi court sentences rape victim to 90 lashes | Jerusalem Post

Ohh and if the sentences were initially 1 to 5 years, and then increased to 2 to 10 years, ohh my fucking god, that's like, you know, doubled!

And yes, it really is you who's in a pissy, I'm finding you rather ammusing now.

Now, I gotta go find a /care cup.

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Old Nov 28, 2007, 11:19 AM Local time: Nov 28, 2007, 05:19 PM 1 #11 of 121
See you misunderstood me, I really don't care about the case. This, in fact, is my care cup \_/s

See, it's empty.

The only thing I wished to point out is the blatant lack of facts from the CNN article. You know where I found that other article? By searching for "rape lashes" on the CNN site.

And hell, I'm at work, it's a quiet day, gotta do something to pass the time

MSWord seems to think the above is about 75 words, bit lacking from your target of 10k eigh?

And laughing at my sig eigh? Well the world is a better place now that you're amused.... ¬_¬

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Nov 28, 2007, 12:30 PM Local time: Nov 28, 2007, 06:30 PM #12 of 121
I didn't count it, Microsoft Word did. I simply, like previously, passed on the information.

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Old Nov 28, 2007, 02:18 PM Local time: Nov 28, 2007, 08:18 PM #13 of 121
Bradylama, feels good thanks. Ohh by the way, read my previous posts. Where I indicate just how much I think she should be lashed. I think you missed something there... but who am I to say that, a
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So, lurker, you say "lying, cheating wife" I say "lying whore of a wife".

What's the problem exactly? I was marely providing a summary of alleged events so far. You'd rather I bash Islam and forget the wife ever allegedly cheated?

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Nov 28, 2007, 02:32 PM Local time: Nov 28, 2007, 08:32 PM #14 of 121
Like I said, I never said that I think she deserved a whipping, I said that that's a fucked up.
What I did say was that she knew what she was getting herself into. She must've known the law and its consequences.

Look at it from this way: If I was caught driving 100mph on a 30mph road and made a fuss about loosing my driving license because of it, all of you would say that I knew the law and what I would have to endure as punishment and to shut the fuck up.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
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Old Nov 28, 2007, 02:35 PM Local time: Nov 28, 2007, 08:35 PM #15 of 121
So I lack critical thought because I provided a summary of the various news stories... Okay...

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