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Why is the murder rate in the US so high?
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Yamigarasu
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Old Mar 3, 2008, 03:19 PM Local time: Mar 3, 2008, 05:19 PM #1 of 83
Brazil murder rate is biassed, the vast majority here is murder II or IV, the lack of a good health care and the fact that most police forces take forever to arrive at the scene is what raises mortality.

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Old Mar 3, 2008, 04:57 PM Local time: Mar 3, 2008, 06:57 PM #2 of 83
Compared with other countries we are insanely lax - of course, I do live in the Midwest, so it's hard to say comparatively what things are like in coastal cities. Here in Indiana though there's more ways to get a gun than I'm able to count.

I don't mean to argue for more gun control...but Indiana at least could definitely use smarter gun control. I basically just have to show up and say that I'm not a felon and a day later I can go out and legally get a firearm - provided the vendor actually cares that I'm licensed to own one.

A lot of murder crimes are done with guns - and I don't think we need to necessarily do more blanket restrictions on ownership...well, you know where I'm going with this, already covered it.

Even more legal restraints would make it difficult to obtain a gun illegally. I know ultimately it's not going to stop a criminal who wants to kill somebody, but I can't imagine it wouldn't help at all.
Thats not true, you can't buy firearms here, well, you can, but the process involves you being screened by the federal police, a 4 months waiting, and you have to actually proove by means without a doubt that you need a firearm.

Yet, the results are show by the OP, Phoenix is right, felons don't need permits.

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Old Mar 4, 2008, 02:47 AM Local time: Mar 4, 2008, 04:47 AM #3 of 83
Shouldn't this be considered a good thing? If legally owned firearms were being used in crimes that'd make them easier to track.

I think you're confusing the issue of how guns are acquired illegally in the first place.
Pardon me being blunt, but I think Link's just unhappy with the "right to arm bears" (pun intended) because of the whole easiness in getting a firearm.

I still stand on my opinion that it doesn't matter if you force people to take mental tests and screen their pee for birth defects, or whatever crazy thing to inhibt people from trying to get a gun, If you want to kill someone, you are going to, no matter if you get a gun, a knife or a stone, as someone said on the thread, firearms are just means to acomplish something, The first primitive firearms were invented around 1000 AD, but man is killing eachother since the dawn of time.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Mar 4, 2008, 09:03 AM Local time: Mar 4, 2008, 11:03 AM #4 of 83
That list only make the rates on U.S. rates look worst, not better, see, the vast majority of those countries are still in development and when dealing with criminality, a lot of then are still no mans land, they simply don't have the means or the manpower to stop or at least, cohibit crime, and of course they would be top murder rates, but a quote from the same article says;

Homicide demographics are affected by changes in trauma care, leading to changed lethality of violent assaults, so the homicide rate may not necessarily indicate the overall level of societal violence.

The top one for instance, the country had the worst helthcare in the americas up till the 80's, something that, amongst other things, led the country to a 12 year civil war, it still has one of the largest rates of powerty, and it's the most dense populated country in the americas.

So what you are saying is that compared to the rest of the third world countries, U.S. is okay? well, it's nonsense to me, but even so, a helluva good list, shows that people don't really think before killing another human being.

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