Half-ton Man Dies, family blames government

LOL at the idea of bullies only messing with the fat kids.

Your forehead's sloping, Shin.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

I know what you said, Shin, but certainly you're the best troll ever (and it crossed my mind that it's the case here) if you think that it'd seem like bullies are a contributing factor to weight loss and not a contributing factor to human suffering. The fact you don't look at the symptom of the system involved, given how "do nothing" most teachers are in many areas are, the fact we believe our stupid shit children could ever properly police themselves given how fucking worthless we've progressively made the lessons they learn.

I suppose, you know, we could actually just have policy in place to charge fat kids extra for food, the space they inhabit, and then let them realize that being fat tends to not make you any friends or get you dates.... but seriously, bullies? Dude, don't be simple.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

It's not bullies we rely on to teach our kids or govern them with order, it's the teachers we employ or the mentors we give them. By your logic, we should all carry guns or learn a martial art because it's our fault if we get beat the fuck on the street otherwise, instead of expecting some common human fucking decency. I mean, we're all adults, right?

It doesn't take some miserable piece of shit wrecking a person's mind to teach them lessons, Shin. You have a fucking point in that fat people shouldn't be allowed to be fat, shouldn't expect dates or jobs, or preferential treatment. But bullies don't provide order, they spit in the face of it. Again, "Free Market" socializing doesn't fucking work in the same way that "less government" or "libertarianism" don't work, because you're relying on the chance that human beings won't actively try to stretch it to the utmost limit they can get away with.

Charging fat people extra for the food they eat or the space they inhabit? Great. Only offering them manual labor jobs, and allowing the actual realities of a civilized society to dawn on them early on? That's life right there, and it can easily be facilitated by a society about people. If bullying was such a great method, why were there so many fat kids way back when? I imagine it has something to do with the fact that bullying shuts a person into social recluse rather than encourages them to obtain something they can't have. You don't have to respect a fat person, but you certainly don't need to give bullies free reign in doing the shit they do.

Bullying isn't a fucking answer, and it doesn't make kids hard, it just encourages them to lay down and fucking die because no one wants their fat ass around. That's natural order, after all. And yes, there's a difference between life's social challenges, like standing up for yourself, and a person getting stomped on by worthless little shits.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Shin

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No insult in snipping your words here, because I agree we need to stop allowing them to have the concessions they get. Call a spade a spade, definitely. But I do take issue with the whole "bullies" thing. Bullies help no one, they encourage nothing positive, they do nothing positive. Yes, I agree the kiddie/bitch gloves need to come off, but reality is neither harsh nor caring, it is what it is. As you said, call a spade a spade.

Again, I find it's a weakpoint to defend bullies in any shape or capacity, much less be intentionally cruel to a fat person when it isn't warranted. I've seen what happens to people, and not just fat people, when thrown in that situation. They fall down, refuse to move, and get swept by the way side. Again, I don't think anyone's advocating that natural selection take place, the part of us that has some motherfucking compassion just wants that person to realize that being fat is fucking disgusting and that there's no place for it in society.

Hazing a person into submission doesn't send that message, it just makes you realize what a piece of shit the person doing the bullying is. And again, there is a difference between being real and just being a dick.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

I think turning a blind eye to when that stuff happens is suggesting we don't have the capacity to look at the system and go "What the fuck is this shit?" in regard to what you just said. Because you're right, and it's just indicative of a society that wants to ignore shit until something actually goes wrong, like lurker said a few posts up and something about frozen hairy elephants.

We need to address the system, because turning a blind eye to bullies means eventually they will take it too far because they're gonna test that system because it's a human impulse to like anything else. Folks need to ask questions and look this shit in the face, rather than go "That's the way it is" and hope that life automates itself. Because it's clear that that kind of attitude results in fucking stagnant, lazy and ignorant fucks.

I had a political science teacher try to explain to me that America being in debt meant nothing because we couldn't be called out on it. Clearly her stupid ass didn't know what that meant in regard to an actually functioning society. The massive correction, just letting shit go on auto-pilot and not having an active hand in trying to suggest new ideas and what not. That's truly ignorant shit, we can't stand for it now like we stood for it then because we see where it gets us.

Things can be better than what they are, so let's think that way rather than look back for that old bullshit status quo and something that's clearly not conducive to anything but an eventual human suffering. It doesn't take much to get a person to realize they're in a bad way, it doesn't take spite or hurt. Again, reality isn't personal, it's just real.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Gloss over the thread, did we?

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?