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IP Address Troubles involving Purchases
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Old Nov 27, 2007, 01:50 PM Local time: Nov 27, 2007, 12:50 PM #1 of 12
Yes, when you are on your boat, you may obtain an IP address that is from a Norwegian address block, if the boat's networking service points back to Norway. But when you get back to your home in Texas, on your internet service, you are going to have an IP address that is very much from an American address block.

Now there are some security measures that are available that will associate your account on the site with a region of origin, so that if you set up the account and it looks like you are in Norway, when you try to make a purchase from your house and it looks like you are in a completely different geographical region from the account's origin, which would be the case, the security software says "hmm that is unlikely, someone must have stolen his information - denied". So uh, could you try to make a purchase from a different computer that has never been on the boat, you know, for fun.

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Old Nov 27, 2007, 03:18 PM Local time: Nov 27, 2007, 02:18 PM #2 of 12
How about creating an account and making a purchase from a site that you have not purchased from before?

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Old Nov 27, 2007, 05:15 PM Local time: Nov 27, 2007, 04:15 PM #3 of 12
He just said he didn't have but the one computer, and that wouldn't make any difference really. His computer will not have any foreign IP address assigned to it when he is at his home in Texas. When he is on his ship, he probably gets assigned a 192.168.x.x address, or some other address that routes through his corporate internet gateway, so if he were on the boat accessing a site, it would see the Euro IP address. When he is at home on his own internet connection, if he is using DSL, a website he is accessing will see the IP address assigned to his DSL modem, since most DSL modems I have seen are assigned the public IP and then assign whatever is connected to it an internal, usually 192.168.x.x IP. If he is using cable, well, most cable modems basically just pass the public IP directly to the device connected to it {router or PC}, so that is what a website would see. The only way that a website would see him as being in Europe when he is at his home is if he had an active VPN connection to his corporate network and was accessing the internet through the VPN connection using the corporate internet gateway for http and https traffic, which is unlikely. If I am the only one who understands what I just said, I am going to be sad.

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Old Nov 27, 2007, 05:35 PM Local time: Nov 27, 2007, 04:35 PM #4 of 12
Well, that 192.168.1.100 address is not what the outside world sees as you, since that is an internal address. Your modem is assigning that address to you, while it is being assigned the public address that the rest of the world sees. If you hit 192.168.1.1 in an internet browser, it should take you to a web interface for your modem that will show you its IP address, which is the one that the outside world sees. Unless your ISP is doing some freaky stuff, or it just acquired a new block of addresses that were previously reserved for use in Europe, the outside world {i.e. internet sites} will see you as being in the US.

If anyone tells you anything different, I would have to question where they got their information.

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