This is totally lame...

Originally Posted by Smoodle

And, Valiant, you're very wrong in your assertion that girls don't like to be approached by guys who are a bit nervous (I know some don't, but those are bitches). They'd rather be approached in a nervous way than an overly cocky way. They see it as flattery.

That sure is a really self-serving theory you've got there guy. You seem to forget that there's a really nice middle ground between overly cocky and nervous. If you approach the girl nervously, you're going to spazz out and give a bad first impression, which you don't want. Either develop some self confidence or learn to fake it.

And I know that you have very little self confidence after reading your next post in the thread:

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Thanks. Maybe I'll try that. Sometimes I just feel like a socially inept fucktard from another planet! Don't you could send messages through thought? Man, that would be awesome ...

Someday I will find a girl who likes me enough to have a relationship with me ... someday ...

Sure, you could go up to this girl and nervously try to express a coherent thought, but it would probably not go over very well. It would be a better idea to take a good, hard look at yourself, discover the good qualities that you possess {and I'm sure you've got plenty of good things going for you, it's just a matter of identifying them and emphasizing them}, and then present yourself to her in a friendly manner. Simple as that. See if there's any sort of spark or chemistry and if so, go from there.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Smoodle

Self-serving? WTF? No. And if a woman can't handle the fact that some guys are going to be a bit nervous at first, they're bitches. Simple.

Look, I don't mean to come off as being mean or a jerk here, but let us examine the facts and interpret them fairly and logically.

Fact: You think that you are socially inept.
Interpretation: This causes you to become nervous around people who you do not know very well.

Fact: You hope to someday find a girl who will want to pursue a relationship with you.
Interpretation: Based on the usage of "someday", you have never dated before.

Fact: You think that a girl who looks down on someone who approaches them nervously is a bitch.
Interpretation: You've been rejected before and rather than considering that you were rejected by any fault of your own, you believe that it was simply because the person who you approached has negative personality traits. Now, I don't want you to read that and interpret it as me trying to insult you, because I'm not. Maybe you were rejected because the girl was a bitch. Or maybe it was because she was not receptive towards your nervous approach method. Or maybe it was because she simply was not attracted to you, for whatever reason. It could be any number of reasons, but the point is that you are linking a single cause {nervous approach} with the effect of being rejected and you are theorizing that any girl who would reject a guy who approaches her nervously is a bitch.

Seriously, I am not trying to be a jerk here, that is not my intention at all. I just want you to see that you have room for improvement in your attitude on this. Simply painting girls who aren't receptive towards nervous guys as bitches is not healthy and it will lead to you labeling every girl who rejects you as a bitch, which is simply not the case.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

You're backpedaling, but that's ok, I will play along.

If you approach someone with nervousness, instead of confidence, you are telling them more than just that you are nervous. You're telling them that you are unsure of yourself, that you do not have a lot of self confidence. Lack of self confidence is a turn-off for a lot of people {source}, there is nothing shallow about this, as it is a personality trait that affects a person's behavior and reactions to many situations.

Like I suggested before, you need some self confidence. Maybe right now you should learn how to fake it, so that you can approach women and seem confident, and maybe enjoy some success in the relationship area, which would help you build some confidence and you wouldn't have to fake it anymore. Then everyone is happy.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by XerxesTheMighty

You march right up to her and ask if she would be interested in a game of AD&D or her thoughts on last week's SciFriday!

That might be the funniest thing that I have read all day.

As far as the nervousness thing goes, if you are meeting a girl for the first time and you're coming off as being really nervous about talking to her, most of the time, she will not be thinking to herself "aww how cute he's nervous". She will be thinking something closer to "what the heck is this guy's problem, why can't he form a complete sentence". That usually won't get you very far, unless you're just extremely good looking.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?