[Movie] Transformers Movie (07-04-07)

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At least Prime is getting a lot of attention in the film.

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Yeah, they started filming. TFW2005 has some on-set images up.

The teaser trailer is supposed to be released July 4th this year according to TFW2005. That poster is simply a close-up of the Autobot symbol with an eye behind it. Decepticon variation?

Here's some wallpapers:
http://www.transformersthemovie.info/

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Here's the only one I have. Is it just me, or does the poster have a War of the Worlds vibe going?

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The Citreon C4 has nothin' on Soundwave.

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"They're breakdance fighting!"

I was speaking idiomatically.

Anybody remember this?




Which Comic con was this? I thought it was the '05 San Diego, but I might be wrong. Anyway, they were supposed to reveal the whole thing at this years con. Any word on that?

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Will I be missing out on any vital plotpoints if I watch it before the actual show?

Yeah. Well sort of. All you need to know for the movie is that it takes place in 2005 whereas the first couple of seasons of the show took place in 1984, so it skips ahead to when the Decepticons have taken Cybertron. Season 3 picks up where the movie left off with Galvatron and a weakened Decepticon army in shambles. Season 3 gets into the Quintessons (5-headed tentacle dudes in the movie) and their involvement in the creation of the Transformers.


If I'm not mistaken, that pic from San Diego Comic con '05 is the official version of Prime's vehicle that will be used in the movie. Judging from all the pictures of it, the shape is spot-on with the 20th Anniversary Optimus Prime toy (coolest toy ever hands down period and one of the most accurate G1 Primes ever, even more so than the original toy!). I'm not worried about Prime, the script (from what I've read about it) gives alot of fan service to Prime. He'll be G1 accurate to a tee. It's the other characters we need to worry about. Though I'm not too happy about Camero Bumblebee, I guess I can learn to accept it. It's not too big a flaw I suppose, I mean it's not like they wouldn't have made Bumblebee a VW Bug if VW were willing to give them the rights. Stupid VW.

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This movie will be ultimate fail if Optimus Prime isn't played by Cullen.

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Fuck that teaser. Seriously, they at least should have had the transforming sound effect in it somewhere. That was totally Megatron at the end. He looks like the original toy (does that mean they made him turn into a gun after all?). Why were the Decepticons on Mars 4 years before they come to Earth? Damn it, Bay is fucking it up isn't he? That's not the way I remember it!

Also, the teaser seems to have been removed from the official site for now (probably because of server overload), but I can still find it on Youtube: Youtube TF movie teaser (that's the right one right?). Now I need a hi res version to make a few gifs from...



In a related matter, the Titanium series toys should be out soon. War Within Megatron and Prime FTW.

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Um...did you even WATCH the original Transformers? EVERYTHING about the show was far-fetched. That's what made it awesome. 30 foot tall Megatron transformed into a tiny hand gun, Soundwave transformed into a boom box, hell, even the act of transforming is pretty rediculous. I'm starting to get worried because Bay is changing stuff that doesn't need to be changed, it was perfetly fine the way it was.

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Why not compare the movie to G1 continuity since that's what the film is BASED ON? They're not supposed to be recreating things from scratch, just modernizing it a bit. Yes, I read Infiltration too. It's not a bad comic, but I liked Dreamwave's runs better. Why? Because they focused on what made G1 so great, not trying to retell things in a semi-feasible way.


Look, I'm not too upset about the Mars thing, and I'm not nitpicking (LOL, blue skies). I'm just a tad alarmed because this is supposed to be based on G1, and it doesn't seem like Bay is going to any effort to show us that. It seems almost like he's trying to make it very differnt from G1. Maybe the review of the leaked script on TFW2005 was right, maybe it will be a good film for casual movie goers, but will lack that Transformers spirit and will be a let-down for G1 fans. That's just the impression I'm getting. I realize things need to change in order to modernize it and make it and more realistic, but Bay sure could be catering to the fans a bit more. Just because fans are salivating at the idea of seeing realistic Transformers on the big screen doesn't mean Bay automatically has us in his pocket. I'm sure it will be an entertaining film with cool Transformers moments, but will it really be Transformers?

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ZOMG, BUMBLEBEE!

Spoiler:

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/7...mblebee9aj.jpg

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Hot Shot....bah! I can't stand these new Transformers series. It all went downhill after Beast Machines. Anyway, I don't really know what to make of the image. I can't really tell if it's supposed to be fully transformed or in mid-transformation. The engine block is a nice touch though.

I was speaking idiomatically.

I figured it was a model they would use for reference when doing the CGI (It's not like they built actual full scale working robots for the film). I like the Alternators line, so this isn't a bad start.

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Your image is gone. I'll give you 1 guess why. Please host image on imageshack (the image was removed from Aintitcool by Paramount) and then post it here in spoiler tags (so Paramount can't find us!).

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You didn't save it? "You're an idiot Starscream!" Always SAVE leaked TF pictures to your HD ASAP!

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That can't be Prime, especially when there's this:


(Why go to the trouble of perfectly replicating G1 Prime in full scale and not even use it?)


Everyone knows that G1 Prime is a red flatnose semi, and nothing else. Since this movie is supposed to be G1, then that can't be Prime. Either it's some other Transformer, or its not even from the movie. It could be part of some disinformation campaign to throw us off.




The USAF has posted a video on the set:

http://www.af.mil/shared/media/av/main.html?showid=1229

Did he say it takes place in the middle east?

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I'm not so sure AICN is all that credible what with telling us that picture is Prime. I'm going to live in denial until it's official, after which I will disown the movie. It should be more like this:



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Oh man, this is the worst day ever. First I have my first auto accident and am late to work, then work was extremely shitty, and now I find out that there's no Soundwave. If only I were emo, then I could pretend to kill myself.

Seriously, I always thought Soundwave would make a cool "sound tank" that uses sound to destroy stuff, sort of like Shriek in Batman Beyond except in tank form, like something straight outta Command and Conquer. There's no reason why they couldn't have included him. Starscream's robot mode looks like shit. All the robot modes look too alien and overly comlex. They look more out of Evangeleon than Transformers. The lack of armor and the exposed joints make them look vulnerable.




On the one plus side, I didn't know that Bumblebee was going to be one of the NEW Cameros! The black stripes make it look BAD ASS. I'm no longer complaining about lack of VW. Also, according to IGN, the movie explores Megatron's motives a bit, which will be interesting to see.


All in all, I agree with what Lord Jaroh said. Well put, right on the money.

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What is the requirement for something to be "Transformers", again? They're robots that change into other stuff based on toys made by Hasbro and/or Takara. That's been the only unifying thread throughout the years. Beast Wars is Transformers. Robots in Disguise is Transformers. Cybertron is Transformers. The movie is Transformers, regardless of whether it matches with what you believe a movie based on a '80s cartoon should be.

Only an untrue Transfan would say that. Transformers died after Beast Machines, end of story. Dreamwave's Transformers comics are exactly what Transformers should be. Even the ones that weren't G1 (such as War Within and G.I. Joe/Transformers WWII) were exactly what Transformers should be. IDW's comics also live up to what Transformers should be, they even modernized the designs and retold the original story in modern day. The designs in "Infiltration" are perfectly acceptable as realistic portrayals of giant robots and they also embody everything Transformers fans love. All Bay had to do was read one of these comics (Dreamwave OR IDW) and simply copy them. I don't want Micheal Bay's interperetation of Transformers, I want TRANSFORMERS. Those who say Transformers is NOTHING MORE than "a show that basically had a terrible storyline, crap one or two episode plots, and one-dimensional characters" are very wrong. Transformers has a certain vibe, a spirit to it, that makes it great. Yes, part of it lies in the simplicity of "things that transform and go boom", but there's much more to it than that. One has only to read the reincarnations of Transformers by Dreamwave or IDW to know that. Bay has only shown signs of being untrue to the spirit of Transformers by changing everything that CAN be changed and still barely qualify it as "G1-ish". It seems like Bay is trying to do War of the World with robots rather than the story of a race of beings that are not unlike humans. If I wanted to make a new G.I. Joe movie (or any other 80's cartoon franchise for that matter) I wouldn't start by shitting on the fans and trying to appeal to the casual movie goer only.

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Originally Posted by Kurado

They look too alien..? Maybe because they're fucking aliens. They shouldn't look like something humans made or are capable of right now. They should look advanced, sleek, etc.

No, they're not just aliens. They're a race of machines that are supposed to blend in with other cultures by emmulating their technology. The whole point IS that they look like something we could build right now. It's been that way from G1 all the way through Beast Machines. Also, as I said earlier, it looks like Bay is trying to do War of the Worlds with robots instead of making Transformers. Part of Transformer's appeal is that they are not so different from us, that they have much of the same problems, personalities, motives, and emotions that we do. As opposed to a WOTW vibe where it's simply the "the other" are vastly different from us and are out to get us.

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When you say simply more modernized, I don't see how they'd get it to work without the characters looking like shit at all. The Transformers look very good now, even if they're a bit of a divergence from the '80s look (which, again, really isn't a bad deal at all).

You saw that Citreon commercial right? The robot Citreon is a great example of what should have happened. It looks like it's straight out of the freakin' Alternators toy line! I don't mind so much if they change stuff, but the changes implemented by Bay are way too far out from what Transformers have ever traditionally been. At least when they transform they always retain some recognizability of what their vehicle mode was. You can see how the entire front end of a car doubles as a robot's torso and the very design of the car helps you recognize and helps define each character. The new designs look to do just the opposite: differentiate the robot from the vehicle mode. This is not Transformers.

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Any day of the week. G1 Prime (especially in all his 20th anniverssary figure glory) looks perfectly acceptable as realistic (for the purposes of a live action film), especially when the new design doesn't scream "this could really happen!". Will changing it make that much of a difference to casual movie goers? No. To the fans? YES. When they said G1, the image of G1 Prime instantly jumped into the minds or every Transformers fan.

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Karudo, did you watch much Transformers in the 80's?

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Ha ha!

Here's why I don't like it: Bay isn't changing the designs just to shit on the fans, he's chaning the designs to fit with his new theme (which shits on the fans): that Transformers are these very alien things that have nothing in common with humanity and don't attempt to blend in with their technology very well. This is totally contrary to what Transformers (in all its incarnations) has been. Not to mention that in all of the new robot mode designs, you can't even tell what they're supposed to transform into until you see their vehicle mode, which is also contrary to the designs of Transformers. The vehicle modes should always heavily influence the design of the robots modes, not fail to have anything in common with them.

Other than those reasons, Prime looks unbefitting of a Prime. He looks more like Mech Warrior meets anorexic girl. Here's what makes Prime:



Massive. Hulking. Armor. He should be large and in charge, simple blunt surfaces, parts unexposed. Not the Mr. skeleton dude that is the new design. Take the new look and put more armor around it and then maybe we've got a deal, but as it is I just don't like it as Prime. Sure, it's a cool mech, but it's not Prime. Maybe I'll grow to like it, maybe I'll grow to hate it more, but my first impression as a Transformers fan is "no dice".

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It may not be G1 Prime, but it is the best Prime design outside of G1. The War Within Cybertronian version represents Prime perfectly.

When I said "little attempt to blend in with humanity" I was refering to the robot mode, not the vehicle mode. As I said earlier, the point is that the Transformers are supposed to look like they could be built by whatever civilization's technology they're emmulating, even in robot mode. It has always been this way. Bay changes it just to for shits and giggles in order to make the movie "his vision" and not just Transformers on the big screen. He puts too much emphases on trying to make it MICHAEL BAY TRANSFORMERS. Really it should be TRANSFORMERS (btw, directed by michael bay).

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