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[DS] Dragon Quest IX Announced For Nintendo DS
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Old Dec 12, 2006, 01:24 AM Local time: Dec 12, 2006, 01:24 AM #1 of 73
The only thing that really worries me about this announcement is that almost every RPG franchise that has started on a console then moved onto a portable died a bloody death, the Estpolis/Lufia line being the most bloody.

It can be done, and it can be done right, but please god don't let it suffer the same fate as those who came before it.

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Old Dec 12, 2006, 01:41 AM Local time: Dec 12, 2006, 01:41 AM #2 of 73
I don't doubt it has the potential to be badass, I'm simply hoping that it comes out that way being one of the top tier franchises. There is generally a LOT riding on a Dragon Quest title, and regardless of how many it sells a shitty turnout will destroy people's faith in it. This coming off of Dragon Quest VIII, which just about everyone loved.

This also opens the door for DQ10 to be in the Wii as well as previous DQ games to be released on the virtual console. DQ9 and DQ10 may be able to interconnect with each other down the line as well.

I'll probably reserve most of my judgement until I start to see some media and ideas about what direction this is going in.

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Old Dec 12, 2006, 04:10 AM Local time: Dec 12, 2006, 04:10 AM #3 of 73
So it really is an action RPG then? Hrm.. DQ Crystal Chronicles FTL.

At least this increases the chances that 10 will be on the Wii if anything.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Dec 12, 2006, 07:14 PM Local time: Dec 12, 2006, 07:14 PM #4 of 73
I'm beginning to notice a rather disturbing trend with people talking about this. People who started playing Dragon Quest with Dragon Quest VIII suddenly talking like they know what's best for the franchise without even finishing DQVIII or playing the other seven games.

"I PLAYED THROUGH SOME OF DRAGON QUEST VIII IT WAS BORING LOL I'VE NEVER PLAYED THE OTHERS BUT THIS IS THE WORST NEWS LIKE EVER I'M GONNA SUICIDE OVER IT OMG WTF"

I guess the people who played FFVII first now have an ally in the people who played DQVIII first. Not all of you are obviously annoying, but the last thing I want to see is the wave of stupid doubled.

I hope the lot of you wait until we have enough information to actually make a decision as to whether this will suck or not, before throwing your arms in the air and repeatedly screaming "Y U MOVE ASSBACKWARDS HAW HAW HAW FAIL" about this. ;_;

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Old Dec 13, 2006, 04:17 PM Local time: Dec 13, 2006, 04:17 PM #5 of 73
Originally Posted by SOLDIER
Statements like this have been tossed around the GAF thread the last couple of days, and it pretty much shows the forum's ugly side magnified for everyone to see. Their constant need to use every single piece of news or quote that Sony is doomed is just annoying as shit. I bet not even half of those guys even like DQ, but they still love having any excuse to cheer for Nintendo.

I don't see how moving DQIX to the DS affects the PS3 or the Wii in any way. They probably just didn't want to pick a side with the two consoles when both of them barely got into the market. The DS is already a huge success, so having this game isn't going to make it bigger (just like how the PS2 was already dominating the market before DQVIII came around).

This does, however, hurt the PSP, which quite honestly is struggling. Considering that I spent $250 (much of it in trade-ins), I really hope it still has a chance to pick up, because I can't stand to see wasted potential.

Ironically, a port/remake of FFT was announced for the PSP on the same day, something that I'm sure tons of people have been waiting for. But since GAF spits on all things Sony-related, they dismiss the news as "unecessary" along with lines like "it'll suck without Matsuno" "anything on the PSP is crap, so this is crap" "Nintendo forever" etc etc.
It is quite a blow to Sony, because the DS is receiving an original title rather than yet another slightly updated port of a game. If they ported over FFT to the PSP with the same level of additions that FFIII got on the DS (content over graphics, obviously) they'd have all kinds of win going for them. But alas, that isn't the case. This is a huge blow to the PSP, and should 10 be announced on the Wii, an even larger blow to the PS3 in Japan. Dragon Quest is bigger than Final Fantasy there, so anything DQ-related announced is serious business.

New FFT without Matsuno will indeed be crap. The port should survive, though.

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Old Dec 13, 2006, 05:38 PM Local time: Dec 13, 2006, 05:38 PM #6 of 73
There is no negativity involved in my post, considering it's basic fact at this point. I'll rephrase what I said in that it's a "deathblow" rather than a normal blow. I already stated in the Ivalice Alliance thread that those games were nothing more than an easy money machine, and that DQIX might be part of that scheme.

The chief difference is that DQIX may be Horii and the Enix division sizing up the Nintendo market, as most people who own a DS right now either own or will end up owning a Wii. With the Square side, literally no one expects a Final Fantasy Tactics for the PS3 at this point.

Who knows what they're thinking really.

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Old Dec 13, 2006, 08:36 PM Local time: Dec 13, 2006, 08:36 PM #7 of 73
Originally Posted by Metal Sphere
FFTA was trash, and nothing Matsuno's done in a long time has been groundbreaking or amazing enough to simply toss out any future Tactics titles.

Eh, let's be honest here: This is the start of SE milking the series, moreso than the Ivalice titles.

They're thinking about block long lines, for a product where they only need to put in 1/10th the effort that would've been put into a Wii/PS2/PS3/360 title.
I'll agree that FFTA was trash, but then the GBA doesn't give you too much to work with really. Dragon Quest on the other hand was built on synth music and a simplistic formula and has remained popular over the years. The DS may not be a multimedia champion, but it can produce a Dragon Quest good enough to be a main franchise title.

What I find completely interesting here is that Nintendo made the Wii and basically said "F U GRAPHICS" so the Enix division takes Dragon Quest and says "F U MAIN CONSOLES" and deprives everyone of Dragon Quest IX in HD PROGRESSIVE SUPER 45"+ AWESOME ORCHESTRATED ORGAMSIC TV SUPERPOWER. All the while, Dragon Quest Swords for the Wii slips under everyone's radar even though it looks awesome.

Though I'm wondering what exactly you consider "groundbreaking" these days when literally everything has already been done.

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Old Dec 14, 2006, 08:09 PM Local time: Dec 14, 2006, 08:09 PM #8 of 73
All sarcasm aside, most game developers that gain high ranking positions such as producers love what they do, because they wouldn't be doing it otherwise. If someone who already loves their occupation turns around and says that he had the most fun developing a game than he's ever had before, that speaks volumes for the game itself.

Realize that in a world where you can have as much fun playing Poker with a deck of cards and four buddies as you can playing Halo 2 with those same four buddies on a massive gaming rig, that sometimes big things come in little packages. This game should not be excluded from that.

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Old Dec 26, 2006, 07:52 AM Local time: Dec 26, 2006, 07:52 AM #9 of 73
In really thinking about this concept, I'm starting to warm up to it more and more. Should the game be completely Wi-Fi enabled (and not in-range multiplayer bullshit) this has the potential to be pure fucking gold. It's basically Zelda, but with complete RPG elements and the ability to travel as a party.

The game hinges on two things here. It needs to be Nintendo Wi-Fi online enabled, and it needs to have something that would attract people's attention to play it more than a few times. Medal Collection and Pachisi from Dragon Quest III GBC would be a good start, as well as other possible things.

This really has a lot of potential when you stop to think about all the things they could do with it.

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Old Dec 27, 2006, 11:25 PM Local time: Dec 27, 2006, 11:25 PM #10 of 73
I wouldn't really call that a flaw. There is an insurmountable distinction between the two titles in what people expect out of them. It's apples and oranges grown on the same farm, per se. I wouldn't doubt that you would consider Knights of Lodis a superior title; there are some that prefer it even over the original FFT. It's a matter of personal preference. I digress though, as this topic is about Dragon Quest IX.

I wonder how Level 5 is handling the newfound fame of basically being handed the reigns to one of Japan's most popular franchises. It was Dark Cloud, then Dark Chronicle, then BAM out of nowhere Dragon Quest VIII. Now they're given control of IX. Jeanne D'Arc might force me into buying a PSP sometime later down the line, heh.

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