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Angle lied to the WWE about going to mixed martial arts and SIGNED WITH TNA backstabbing Vince McMahon. Vince must be REELING from this one. This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it. |
It only takes one move like this to gain the advantage over the competitor. All they need now is a two hour show, and the WWE is in BIG trouble.
I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body? |
Angle was released from the WWE because he refused to settle down and give less than 100% of his ability even though he's really injured. I imagine the release was warranted because of the WWE's megaheavy work schedule. Yes, let me repeat, the WWE's megaheavy work schedule.
This is where all the motive lies. In TNA, Angle will not have to work nearly as hard as he did in the WWE, and he can slowly but surely recover himself much the likes of how Shawn Michaels did except Angle is a much much better talent than Michaels is at this point. Not only this, since TNA is mostly PPV heavy, all Angle really has to do is work PPVs while all the TNA created talent remains on Impact and being able to work PPVs. This is a GREAT SETUP for TNA right now. This is a MAJOR backstab and all around blow to Vince McMahon, who was probably expecting him to come begging back for a job when he healed up. Being a fan of professional wrestling and not sports entertainment, I am in MEGA MARK OUT MODE right now. weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee lol I was speaking idiomatically. |
Oh man, and not only this..
Holy shit. I can't wait. I can't fucking wait. ![]() What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
Last edited by Kostaki; Sep 24, 2006 at 10:53 PM.
Reason: Automerged additional post.
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LOLOLOLOLOL DIVINE INTERVENTION STRIKES
So great. So great. No tron, no nothing. FELIPE NO |
Would it be too much of a dirty pun to be calling every match tonight a DARK MATCH?
lawl EDIT: Haha spoke too soon. :P What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?
Last edited by Kostaki; Sep 25, 2006 at 08:12 PM.
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Jam it back in, in the dark. |
Well, maybe not that way, but it's still wishful thinking. :P There's nowhere I can't reach. |
When you really think about it though, The Rock and Steve Austin are top card entertainers. Kurt Angle is a top card professional wrestler. TNA thrives on bringing professional wrestling to the forefront, while WWE thrives on bringing the entertainment to the forefront.
Using this, it can easily be said that to TNA Kurt Angle is worth just as much as a Steve Austin or The Rock is to WWE. That makes it quite huge. This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it. |
LOL no.
Pro-Wrestling as and always will be about the wrestling first, and the storylines second. The storylines are only there for a single purpose, to build up the hype to the big time wrestling match. Without the match, there is no storyline. Without the storyline, there can still be good matches. When you try to do nothing but storylines, you end up with Kiss My Ass Club segments. Honestly, if you like seeing Vince's ass on television every other month more power to you man. I don't think it takes much thinking to determine that "years ago" wrestling was popular because brands were competing to out do each other. Be it through the matches or the storylines, each brand put out arguably their best when it boiled down to either/or. Characters can be entertaining whether they're hitting high risk moves or talking trash on the mic. The only reason WWE ratings are as they remain now is because there are still people clinging onto the hope that the WWE will break it's shitty rationale streak and deliver television quality the caliber of what it did in the past. Edge spearing women and a horribly executed three team gauntlet match (lol first match squash) isn't going to cut it. There are WWE marks out there, like yourself, that cling and hope. That's fine, you're entitled to that. I can and I will say that Angle is that valuable to TNA. At a time when the business needs competition, a jump like this throws up red flags everywhere to other wrestlers that there's another game in town willing to take you and make you if you aren't getting pushed hard enough in the WWE. Potential stars that the WWE has left unpushed because they don't have the exact penis size Vince wants will be welcomed into TNA. You have to understand that I am a pro-wrestling mark. I care about the industry, I look at the industry from the perspective of what will raise it all the way around. I don't need to repeat my former argument about how much Kurt means to TNA, especially once he's fully healed because the argument remains true. I'm not looking at potential growth for TNA, I'm looking at potential growth for the industry. Will TNA ratings rise because of Angle? That remains to be seen. Who else will now jump over to TNA? That remains to be seen. Sorry, but I don't believe in the concept of "sports entertainment" at all, period. I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body? |
If you don't watch the products anymore, and you aren't clinging to any hope of anything ever improving, then I don't see where most of any of your claims have much merit. Even though you don't know many facts, I'll humor you.
The "Attitude" era of the WWF was about pushing the limits of television. Doing things that no one else had done. WCW vs. WWF did not happen in 1998-2000, WCW vs. WWF happened from 1996 to roughly the beginning of 1999. The Attitude era was the WWF's last bastion against WCW winning the ratings war for 80+ consecutive weeks. Without WCW, there would be no Attitude era. There would be no Steve Austin. He would still be the Ringmaster. There would be no The Rock. He would still be Rocky Maivia, underdog of Faarooq in the Nation of Domination. I really don't need to spell this out again. Professional Wrestling is and always will be wrestling first, and storyline second. It's almost a complete insult to the careers of people who have built their careers from having the most memorable matches ever in countries all over the world to believe otherwise. Storylines exist only for a single purpose; to create momentum for the upcoming match. Nobody buys tickets to Wrestlemania to watch Vince McMahon run his mouth for 20-25 minutes. Nobody buys PPVs for $29-39 a piece to watch lingerie pillow fights. They buy them to skip all that and see good matches. I don't even need to begin to tell you that storyline emphasis is the DRIVING REASON that the industry as a whole has declined hardcore over the past five years. It is, pure and simple. I like how you keep citing Steve Austin and The Rock though. You can't cite anyone presently though, can you? lawl. I was speaking idiomatically.
Last edited by Kostaki; Sep 27, 2006 at 04:37 AM.
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The only announcement the WWE could make that actually matters is Vince and company telling everyone they'll GTFO of TV, push new talent, and give fresh feuds to people who are SICK AND FUCKING TIRED OF JOHN CENA VERSUS ADAM COPELAND.
The "announcement" better deliver too, or they'll end up getting cheapshotted by TNA marks who will immediately turn and say that they only did it to absorb momentum. The Gods are not on the WWE's side at this point. What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now? |
Righto. Well, that was a simple mix-up. Fact is, I do know he was aligned with Ted DiBiase, and went by a name similar. At least he wasn't the fucking Shockmaster, haha. There's too many ____master named wrestlers in the past anyway.
Of course there's a degree of entertainment. It shouldn't be, and usually isn't the forefront. Stone Cold Steve Austin isn't Stone Cold Steve Austin without his epic feuds with actual wrestlers like Bret Hart or Owen Hart back in the day. Without wrestling, the Stone Cold gimmick would never really have flied for the most part. WCW wore that out with Goldberg too, so it isn't like they're not guilty of it. FELIPE NO |
The highest rated segment in wrestling history was also during the attitude era then, where storyline focal point was the key. Obviously when people get behind a wrestler, certain aspects or storylines regarding that wrestler are going to be popular.
Again, your point is invalid considering you're still trying to apply the past to the present. RAW isn't doing 5.0+ nowadays now is it? The storyline in the front worked for a while, because it was a fresh concept. I'll certainly give you that. But concepts, like wrestlers and gimmicks, come and go and get tired out. Storyline in the forefront was there to push the limit in order to go desperation to regain the ratings lead. It was a one shot deal, with people who were one of a kind. That's really all there is it. Once wrestling came back to where it was, in the front, you could see WWE lacking hard again. There's no huge draw in wrestling? Apparently you haven't heard of one Samoa Joe at all lately. No matter how many hard draws TNA has right now though, without a two hour show to showcase the draws they won't move forward. I never said Angle will make TNA dominant I'm afraid, but I did say he would benefit the business as a whole by kickstarting the competition process. Kurt Angle is a draw. Whether you want to believe it or not. He simply wasn't born in the prime of the attitude era, so you hold bias against him. Which is fine of course, because bias seems to be your game. Call my words foolishness, tell me I don't know facts, run your little melee-mouth some more. I'll keep on humoring you. How ya doing, buddy? |
Jam it back in, in the dark. |
Samoa Joe should end up with the belt soon enough, since people are going crazy over this "I have your belt LOL come get it" scenario being played out right now.
Triple H becoming a father is what stopped him from holding onto the title. He was pretty much forced into a backseat role because with the title, he wouldn't be able to take any time off to do stuff with his kid. Angle has little choice but to come in as a heel, likely using the arrogant "I'm an Olympic Champion at wrestling, who the hell are you again?" role he has in the past. He'll have to in order to have any of the big time matches with Styles or Joe who really could never turn heel if they wanted to. There's nowhere I can't reach. |
I can confirm this, because it would then make complete sense of why they are running the storyline of Joe taking the belt; to gauge how well people respond to him with the belt.
Though I didn't know his wife has breast cancer again. Man, that sucks. ![]() This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it. |
Yeah, they have. At the same time though, no one really cared about it because Christian wasn't doing too much as a draw for the belt. Samoa Joe though is an entirely different story.
Where I hope they go is that Sting captures it from Jarrett, Angle then turns heel directly after the match by attacking Sting (remember, Angle is the ENFORCER and not the referee, so this can happen) setting up a title match between Sting and Angle after a bit of a feud. Sting drops to a heel Angle, setting up Joe vs. Angle for the holiday PPV when Angle claims that he defeated Sting because his "Scorpion Death Lock is crap, I've made more people tap out to the Ankle Lock because I am a submission machine" which draws Joe's ire, and starts the feud. How ya doing, buddy? |
That would be the direction they need to go in, because the two shows really aren't doing them much good together when they could run a single show and alternate wrestlers/feuds so they aren't worked as hard.
Something like that would be a definite push forward for the WWE. How ya doing, buddy? |
Recreating the WCW brand for the WWE would fail, if only because they'd have to supplement it with WWE wrestlers. The "feel" of WCW would be completely lost because of missing key elements. Sting for one, would be the biggest puzzle piece missing.
WWE needs a single show, ECW needs a single show. How ya doing, buddy? |
That show went in the right direction, minus what should have been a WWE Title change to infuse some unpredictability into the show. One thing however, has become quite clear.
JIM ROSS SUCKS. "Edge's eyes are as big as sausage." WTF. I'm sorry, but I think a good portion of the WWE's problems is that their main show has an announcer that will tie every food and animal into every piece of commentary he can in one night. For the love of god, BRING IN SOMEONE ELSE. How ya doing, buddy? |
Clearly the announcers are prone to mistakes, so I can look past that. Since they have to talk in a fast paced environment. Though in JR's terms, he was probably thinking about food again when he made that call.
Couple weeks ago I heard.. "Edge is biting those ropes, and they're sure not made of chocolate!" What, you don't want my bikini-clad body? |
Of course, all we need is even more fuel to the dead horse burning fire that is the Edge and John Cena feud.
God forbid if they do try and bring back the nWo again. I wonder if Shawn Michaels will ever admit during all this that he was a member of the nWo at one point, and wanted to jump to WCW to actually join the nWo over there for a while. Nah, I doubt it. How ya doing, buddy? |
I will laugh a hearty laugh if it comes to Vince having to rely yet again on a WCW born and made stable in order to spike his own ratings. He claims not to fear TNA, but making moves like this, certainly prompts me to believe otherwise. Vince absolutely LOATHES using something he didn't create.
This is going to be interesting. Shitty, and more damage to the nWo legacy, but interesting nonetheless. There's nowhere I can't reach. |
The nWo didn't work last time because of complete circumstance.
Nash blew his leg in a match, out he goes. Hall was released for the plane incident, out he goes. Hogan was getting face cheers from people leading up to the Rock match at Wrestlemania, removed from nWo. It was misused to a degree, but at the same time circumstance also played a major factor. This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it. |
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