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Originally Posted by Gumby

Ethics would indicate NOT to come into my home when I am there to rob it or do harm to me. So don't use ethics when it comes to criminals CAL, it doesn't work. They will never abide by our laws or any set of reasoning other than they want what you have and will take it from you by force. Ever wonder why police are armed at all times? For their protection, the same reason why I have firearms in my home. I hope I never have to use them but in the off chance I do, I know that my family and I will be save. CAL if you think I give one bit of damn for that piece of shit would tried to hurt my family you are a fool.

Some people are not interested in harming or killing anyone. Poverty leads to desparation, but not necessarily to homicidal tendancies. There's a good chance that the guy who is stealing your stuff has a hard time getting by in life and just needs to make a quick buck for whatever reason.

I'm not saying it's right for him to do that, but he doesn't deserve to die.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Yes, but Alice, since you mention statistics, one has to wonder if, statistically speaking, your children are safer with the gun (which they could accidentally kill themselves with) or without the gun (how likely are you to be the victim of a home invasion)?

There's nowhere I can't reach.

I'm just wondering. Do you suppose the crimes in your area are random crimes or are they perhaps more often premeditated crimes with specific targets? In other words, would you really get screwed with if you didn't screw with anyone?

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Heh, I'm just saying. Because around here, I've sometimes considered walking around with a baseball bat just to deter possible assailants, but I would think that in the boonies, if someone takes the effort to travel all the way to your house, they must at least know you and if they liked you, well, they'd probably find someone else to rob.

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But Minion, what if someone followed me home to rape me?

Well okay. Do you keep a gun in your glove compartment, too? You should, otherwise when you get out of the car, the guy will probably outrun you and rape you anyway.

The point is, yes, all this stuff happens. But then, a lot of things that we never prepare for are possible. What's the number 1 killer in this country? It's not thieves or rapists; it's heart failure. How many people (espeically in the South) do anything to prevent that? It's just a question of values. These people allegedly care so much about taking care of themselves, but ironically ignore the things that are most likely to kill them, like poor dieting and lack of exercise and smoking.

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I've been poor and homeless before, Minion, so don't give me shit.

So, every homeless man's situation is exactly the same as yours and if you could handle it so could they? There are places where you can get food, but not enough of them and there are a lot of homeless people. Many of them die every year. Why is this, if it's so easy for them to take care of themselves?

I was speaking idiomatically.

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but just because they choose to be out there

Right. People live in the streets and risk their lives stealing other people's junk because it's so much more glamorous than having a decent job and being able to afford things.

You didn't really answer my question. Why can't some of them get it together? Are there enough resources out there for ALL of the homeless in this country?

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Because without guns people basically could not kill each other and would have no desire to do so anyway.

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It's called a joke. I know it's confusing because I am arguing both sides (since I take issue with some points raised by both sides), but I thought my tone was pretty obviously sarcastic.

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So what? Alot of people have a hard time, that doesn't mean it's okay to break into someones house.

Minion, you seem that think that criminals are really a bunch of nice guys at heart, that they're simply mis-understood. I don't buy that...

Man, I love it when people don't read my entire post. Go back and read the very next line that you neglected to quote.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Guns don't kill people. Bullets kill people.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Is it just me, or weren't we a hell of a lot more brutal toward each other when we only had sharp things to kill each other with?

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Nobody needs an SUV. The people who settled those areas got there on fucking horses.

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