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Old Mar 9, 2006, 04:13 PM #1 of 71
The hell are you talkin about, Willis?

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Old Mar 9, 2006, 07:47 PM #2 of 71
Also, Lehah is probably unfamilar with Scriabin's "mystic" chord. But anyway, it's not as if harmony is the only area for possible musical innovation.

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Old Mar 10, 2006, 12:06 AM #3 of 71
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Well, then name some type of experimentation that was not an offshoot of what I previously made an example of.
What about Jazz? Music pre-dating Jazz was composed almost entire in Ionian (Major) or Aeolian (Minor) modes. Jazz's "blues scales" are actually a mode that was almost never, if ever, used previously.

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Old Mar 10, 2006, 03:55 PM #4 of 71
The funny thing is, I've read that many composers, including Bach and Beethoven, and even some pre-baroque composers used the Tristan chord somewhere in the body of their works. It's in a Beethoven sonata and some piece in Bach's WTC. Actually, pretty much everything you can think of appears in Bach's WTC or Beethoven's Sonatas. Part of the reason they are so highly regarded is because they are a kind of microcosm of music. Everything is there. If you can play them, you can play anything. But that doesn't make Wagner any less original because his originality is in his style. When you can listen to a piece you've never heard before and say "yeah, that's definitley Wagner", that's how you know Wagner was original. He wasn't the last of his ilk, though. You should check out Scriabin's music, Lehah. And I'm sure you're familiar enough with Prokofiev and Debussy.

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Old Mar 10, 2006, 04:34 PM #5 of 71
Yeah, that is how they justify it being his, although I can't see any technical reason for regarding a chord as anything more than 2 notes in harmony.

I agree with you in part and in part I disagree. Nothing is new under the sun, but originality is in the presentation, not so much the materials. In that sense, Wagner is original as are many who came after him.

I was speaking idiomatically.

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Old Mar 30, 2006, 07:25 AM #6 of 71
Then again, how hard would it be for someone to sit down and transcribe this music from the movie itself?

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Old Mar 30, 2006, 08:59 AM #7 of 71
Couldn't a computer basically do all the work for you? Just take the sound track from the movie, minus human voices and translate the wave form into a midi/sheet music?

And wow, that is pretty elitist. Even classical snobs relish in how often a piece is performed in different ways by different people.

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