South Dakota bans most abortions

In a well run democracy, I don't see freedom as being as important, let alone more important, than the majority's opinion. It's pretty clear what the people of South Dakota want. If you're saying that your freedom is more important than the majority's decisions, why have any laws at all?

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So do a lot of laws. Why do we have a law against murder in general? That's just Christian Ten Commandments hogwash anway.

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We're not a pure democracy because when our country was founded, it was not practical. We remain a fake democracy because it's nearly impossible to change anything in this country, especially when the people in power are so comfortable.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Why are you assuming a law against abortion has religious foundations? I don't need religion to tell me not to terminate a pregnancy.

How ya doing, buddy?

Listen, I can think gravity doesn't exist and the world is flat. That doesn't make it so.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Uh, you do realize that some women, even *gasp* secular women, are anti-abortion?

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

You would get preached at regardless. People preach about all sorts of things. That doesn't mean their only possible motivation is religion.

And don't forget that I said secular women. Not just women.

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Maybe they should. I'm not arguing that.

You see, your mistake is labeling these people "the religious right" - a fringe movement that is a loud minority. I think this may be a flawed perception, though. Taken as a whole, I'm not convinced that our country supports abortion. And don't go showing me any polls, either. Most people who are against abortion probably never participate in those.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Well, on the basis of legality, it should be whatever the hell the majority thinks. Why is this so hard to swallow?

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Who said I don't believe in rights? Someone has to determine what our rights are. Who could possibly do this?

Cue arguement about the right to privacy ad tedium.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

No, it works regardless. I see you're having trouble fathoming the idea that I am consistent in my beliefs, so you'll just have to take my word I guess. Or not.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

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If we don't want niggers in our town, then by God we should be able to vote on it.

Well, I also think everything should be legislated from the federal level. States are an outdated concept.

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Then you've just underminded our system of checks and balances. I couldn't think of a better way to kill the American Republic.

This is why abortion is a important issue. Not because of morality, religon, or rights. But because we're trying to maintain a balance of government.

The hell are you talking about? We have an executive branch, a Congress and a Supreme Court all at the Federal level.

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Yeah see, I don't know if that's necessary. We're not a conglomeration of independant states anymore. We're one country. The whole system is pretty ridiculous and seems to be completely unique to the US.

I work in the insurance industry and I can tell you firsthand that the difference in laws from state to state is just stupid. There's no reason for it and if insurance weren't so complicated, insurance companies wouldn't have to hire so many employees to deal with it and maybe it wouldn't cost so much.

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I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. The only thing I see happening with this system is extreme polarization, which degerates social issues into political battles that are more about staying in office than doing the right thing.

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