[Movie] Transformers Movie (07-04-07)

Not having the classic Optimus/Megatron/Starscream voices would probably do the movie a huge injustice. I'll see how it turns out, but I'm not too optomistic...it is Hollywood...

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by WolfDemon

Also, the original Starscream is apparently dead.

Doh! I didn't know that.

Most amazing jew boots

Commencing whining...

Yup, this movie is not Transformers. This is Michael Bay's Giant Robots Who Happen to Change Forms.

It's too bad that Hollywood seems determined to shit out any movie, and not follow what made the idea for that movie good to begin with. I know they won't be getting my $10, and I truly hope that this movie bombs worse than Dungeons and Dragons, just so that Hollywood may start getting the idea that it is not good to put out bad movies.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Yup, considering it was supposed to be based loosely off G1, and then none of the Transformers even closely resemble anything they are supposed to. ie. It's the new Miami Vice, Godzilla, Honeymooners, Dukes of Hazard, Dungeons and Dragons, etc.

Sure, Michael Bay can do a decent action movie, and I'm sure that Transformers will be filled with action. But will it be Transformers? I think not. And if you think it will, you go enjoy playing with your Energon Cube. Me, I'm not going to support shitty movies, and I'm also not going to support Hollywood resurrecting an old idea only to shit on it to make it more "mainstream" and popular with the younger movie audience.

Transformers could have been a great movie. Instead it will be a ho hum forgettable action flick of the summer that no one will care about.

Most amazing jew boots

So now it's a Decepticon if it has an insectoid face?

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by galen

Wow, did you guys actually expect them to look like the 80's versions? Seriously?

I'm lolin' over here, at that. Oh man you have no idea.

Sort of like Superman, Spiderman, and countless other comic book characters that are iconic. Yup, they should be recognizable as their classic versions. Yes I understand that Superman's "original" costume was quite different, but once he hit popularity, well his look has always become iconic, no matter how many times they have tried, and failed, to change it.

When I originally heard that they were coming out with a Transformers live action movie that was mainly based on G1, with a few borrowed elements from later series, yes, I expected the characters to be recognizable as G1 characters, simply more modernized. These fail in every respect.

Double Post:

Originally Posted by Kurado

It's a Decepticon if it looks evil.

Except that Decepticons were part of the same race as Autobots. They were simply more warlike, thus the alternate forms adopted more war-related forms. These look like they are of a different race completely. Not that it really matters, since this isn't Transformers, much like Godzilla wasn't Godzilla even if they called it that.

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by Kurado

What the fuck are you talking about the characters not being recognizable? Bumblebee's yellow. That's all I need. Optimus Prime has the mouth-piece (lol) and red and blue color scheme. You can't change that. OMG HE HAS IT.

When you say simply more modernized, I don't see how they'd get it to work without the characters looking like shit at all. The Transformers look very good now, even if they're a bit of a divergence from the '80s look (which, again, really isn't a bad deal at all).

God you are so right! These would look like shit in a movie!





This is what I'm talking about by being modernized, but still recognizable, and in the same vein being realistic. And would it have been bad to pander a bit to the fans of the classic line that made it big?

The point is, they are changing it for no reason at all, just because they can. See, I can understand the Bumblebee can't be a VW arguement. So why not a Focus? Or a Mini? Or any sort of hatchback? I can understand the no size changing, so no Megatron as a gun or Soundwave as a tapeplayer. But having at least the robot forms not even closely resemble what a Transformer should look like, nor their heads being remotely similar on the Deceptacon side, so that they are unrecognizable except for the names...that's terrible. Why even make a Transformers movie if you're not going to appeal to the fans that made it big. Oh wait, now it's going to be an hour and a half long commercial designed to sell new toys. Nothing more.

FELIPE NO

Originally Posted by Kurado

I also remember growing the fuck up and accepting the fact that Transformers was a cartoon that, as acid mentioned, had only one objective: SELL PLASTIC AND DIE-CAST METAL TOYS TO LITTLE KIDS. The plot was simple: Autobots blew up Decepticons and vice versa while trying to keep their war hidden from humans (Decepticons less so). It was a silly plot about alien robots and whatever but I didn't care. It was fucking awesome.

And by awesome, do you mean that they now have to change everything so that it is not awesome anymore? Because that is what they are doing.

Quote:

I grew up and it's still awesome, but I'm not going to lynch Bay or bash a film that hasn't even been released yet because of some creative character redesigns. As long as the characters RESEMBLE the originals I could care less about anything else. It's obvious the creative team behind the movie cares about TF, as they've gone so far as to try and get original voice actors casted for the movie rather than some shoddy big name actors.

Are the redesigns creative? Sure, I won't argue that. Do they resemble anything of the Transformers other than the fact that they change from one form to another? Nope. So in effect we have giant robots who happen to change to other forms that are in no true way resembling their namesakes. It's like they went and changed Superman into an electric blue version of himself...oh wait they tried that too, and it failed.

Quote:

The real question is: does your mom comb you netherhairs?

The answer is 42.

And Acid, yes I did watch the cartoon. And it was good, if a bit simple. Truthfully, I enjoyed the original comics far more than the cartoon. More story in them, and far longer. But the characters in them grew beyond the "commercials" of the cartoon. If you ask a regular person who Optimus Prime was, they'd more than likely be able to tell you, and they'd describe him as a Red and Blue flatnose semi. If you showed them the movie picture, would they recognize that as Optimus? More than likely not.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Originally Posted by Kurado

I think what you've got going is just a personal vendetta against change. That's why you're probably typing all of this in the pants you wore in 5th grade and the underwear your mother bought for you in preschool. You're so uptight about evolution that you're probably still living in a cave, only now some people call it a INSERT BASEMENT JOKE.

Cool off, grow up, and accept the fact that what was cool in the '80s simply isn't all that rad today. Yes Optimus Prime will always be awesome, but a little redesign can't hurt. Rub your tits to sleep and relax; a chill pill is fine too.

Which is why you are the one throwing around insults like the "bad ass" in grade school? Maybe you should actually try and learn what growing up really means, beyond getting older.

I don't have a vendetta against change. I am against change when there is no reason for it. What was cool in the 80's is still cool today, which is why Hasbro rereleases the classic line or updates it with new, more posable versions. That version is still the best and they know it. It makes them the most money.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Hey, Alf is still cool. Really he is.

Is Terminator still cool?
Is Superman II still cool?
Is Indiana Jones still cool?
How about Aliens?
How about Full Metal Jacket?
There's also Airplane!, is that cool?

Sure not everything cool in the 80's is cool. But many things were, and still are.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Interrobang

Christ, you stupid fuck. Beast Wars didn't have humans and didn't take on animal forms to blend in. Beast Machines was entirely on Cybertron and didn't blend in with anything. You even shoot yourself in the foot by having War Within Prime in your post, who didn't blend in with anything. Transformers is more than G1, you fucking retard.

Sure it is. G1 is just the best of them all and the one that people relate the most to, that's all. If you can get past the schoolyard language you might even start to make some semi-coherent sense.

Most amazing jew boots