[Multiplatform] Grand Theft Auto IV. Not as much fun as shooting real Albanians

Originally Posted by Aardark

360 is already giving the developers trouble with the limited capacity of a DVD (and they can't put it on two discs either, because who wants to switch discs every time when crossing a bridge or something?). I'm sure they'll deal with it somehow, but downloadable content doesn't mean that the game itself will be better.

You actually mis-read what rockstar was saying. What is giving them troubles is making the game run smoothly on a 360 without a HDD. all SKU's of the PS3 come with built-in HDD, whereas one of the 360 SKU doesn't come with a HDD and so rockstar is trying to figure out a way to make it work on the 360 where they won't alienate the userbase without a HDD which is quite miniscule IMO.

It is the same thing that plagued oblivion. Try running it on a 360 without a HDD and you will get a un-playable game basically.

Anyways, this is one of my most anticipated games in 07 right along with Mass effect and Bioshock. Also from what i recall and i'm pretty fervent on keeping up with Rockstar related news is that the Story add-on packs are timed exclusive for the 360. Meaning that they will be launched on the 360 first and the PS3 owners will probably have to wait 2-3 months after the 360 gets em for them to get em.

If it does get a Multiplayer function, it will be even 10x better game. Will love obliterating Skills, Fox, Russ and espically mo0.

Also someone fix the tags considering that the way things are going, The 360 version is going to move twice as many copies then the PS3 version due to established console user-base.

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Originally Posted by Aardark

Now, it's not a given that a creative vice president actually knows what's creating technical limitations and what isn't, and it was kind of a loaded question anyway, but on the other hand I wouldn't be surprised if they did have trouble storing a game as large as GTA on a 7 GB disc.

Read what he said once again. he singled out the problem as dealing with 360 users without a HDD paired with the DVD format. It is easy to see that he is insinuating that it is difficult to play GTAIV on a 360 without a HDD, nothing else. Have you even messed around with a 360 in the first place? The HDD is an integral part for load speeds and framerate, espically when dealing with a space cramped format like the DVD. Notice how that entire paragraph you quoted basically discussed the HDD function of the two systems and the one time DVD was mentioned, it was mentioned along HDD-less 360s.

As someone who owns all 3 next-gen systems, i can tell you that gaming in this next gen at least among the 360 and PS3, is that a PC technique employed for years is playing a big part which is using the HDD as a data cache to speed up everything about the game. The Rockstar VP didn't word what he was saying all that well but what he was trying to say essentially boils down to

" If you have a 360 that doesn't have a HDD, currently we are having troubles making a GTAIV version that will run correctly on your HDD-less 360 and we are working on the problem"

It is also absurd to assume that since that GTAIV is going to be on the PS3 it will look better on the PS3 because the blu-ray has more data disc room to provide. This theory was instantly rebunked 6 months ago. If you take a look at Resistance which is the PS3's current flagship title that clocks in at 14 gigs and Gears of war which clocks in at 6.37 gigs compressed. Gears of war looks 10x better then Resistance when compared side by side on a HD-TV or even a plain TV and this is notion is unanimously agreed upon by the majority of the videogame community.

It is absurd to assume that the PS3 version of GTAIV is going to be supreme, when most facts point to the opposite spectrum.

Also the PR end of all Videogame companies tend to word what they say horribly and this applies to everyone. Hell, one just needs to take a look at the Sony of Europe head who made the ambiguous comment about FFXIII or the OPM article that stated Bioshock as a confirmed PS3 game when it was debunked countless times by the dev's.

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Originally Posted by Musharraf

Well that's awesome but I don't have a 360 either. I seriously don't think that the 360 version will be better anyway, be it only for graphical reasons. I have a HD-TV so I want to have "high digital" graphics, not some average 360 pixel bullshit

The above shows you insinuated the PS3 version would be better and this could be reinforced by you tagging it originally as a PS3 game and to Aardark, the part about graphics was addressed to Musharraf, not you. Sorry i didn't make that more apparent.

I used the Resistance/ Gears example to make a point to mush that as of currently, many 360 games look better then most PS3 games.

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Originally Posted by 2401 Penitent Tangent

While this certainly sucks for people who were looking forward to the game, and perhaps for people will only one console, I personally breath a sigh of relief. The next 4 months are enough wallet rape as it is.

That said, I was looking forward to fucking around, I played Crackdown again the other day and it did nothing but whet my appetite for Sandboxers all over again.

That is exactly what it i thought when i heard this news. I'm happy it is delayed. I love the GTA series, but their is far too many quality games coming out for the 360 this fall and having one less fanatastic game to manage my time for makes me sigh a breath of relief. Plus, when GTAIV drops it will be during a dry-spell for the 360 and will allow me to invest most of my time into it as of now i have no interest in any 08 games besides GTAIV. MGS4 looks stupid as does FF whatever which are currently the only big 08 titles next to GTAIV.

It is also a smart move on Rockstars part as they're no longer competing with 10 other AAA games. They will move far more copies of GTAIV then they would with the october release date. The only game that will give GTAIV a run for it's money is MGS4 and that isn't all that big of a threat. Past MGS games have moved 3+ million copies whereas the GTA games like Vice city have moved 12 million units.

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Originally Posted by Aardark

I wouldn't be so sure, certainly not far more. There are virtually no games coming out in autumn that can compete with GTA IV on most people's priority scale... maybe Halo 3 for some, but that's it. Yes, lots of good games are coming, but GTA is something else entirely. It will sell like crazy regardless of its release date, but it might have done slightly better in late October, since generally game sales are at their highest at the end of the year.

Given that the 360 version will most likley be the best selling version of GTAIV. It will move more overall units in it's new launch window then it would with the october 07 date. Nearly all my friends on the 360 i've talked to are interested in GTAIV, but their are 1 or 2 other games coming out within the same time period that they would rather buy first then GTAIV. I also hear this alot whenever i play live and get into a discussion about what games everyone is anticipating.

If GTAIV came out during october, it would be competing with a release schedule that had AA/AAA games dropping every week for the entirety of October/November.

With it's new launch date, it's only direct competition is a PS3 game which is MGS4 and no other competition from any 360 titles. Given that the PS3 userbase is quite smaller then the 360's as of now and most likely will be still when GTAIV is released. It makes sense to release the game when the most popular console has the least competition. Also it's new release date is right around when the majority of gamers are getting the itch to buy a few new games.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Lukage

They're not familiar with the Kane and Lynch fiasco. I wouldn't bother with it, really. You're probably arguing against the people that said that Halo 3 was better than Halo 2, which was better than Halo 1, which all deserved a 12/10 or something for absolute perfection, blah blah blah. Based on the series being popular, someone will give it a ten. Others will be afraid to rate it otherwise, assuming they'll lose their jobs as well. You know already what the game offers by comparison to the others in the series and you already know what sort of "rating" it deserves in comparison to other titles.

No need to beat around the bush, just admit you're pissed that the PC version doesn't even have a release date yet.

But in all seriousness, If you don't like the game, stay outta the fuckin' thread. Plenty of us here enjoy the GTA series and when a select few of you pull this petty thread derailing crap, you make this place look like Neogaf and that shit ain't cool.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by Lukage

You called me out on it. I'm secretly upset about a PC version of a game in a series that I haven't played since the second one. I played a few minutes of the third one, didn't like it because the premise was the same and the content wasn't really appealing for repeating. Gosh, you called me out on that one, alright. Or perhaps I was trying to let people know how useless reviews are when in terms of numbers. I made a reference to the incident (you don't seem to be familiar) where a reviewer was fired after giving Kane and Lynch a poor review while they were encouraged to hype the game and give it high marks. I'm saying that if you want to score a title, go by the progression made between titles and judge it based on what it does differently. I'm viewing it in terms of what a customer would ask me what is new. I'd tell them that it has more of an open world and also features a multiplayer addition. I don't tell the customer that I give it a 9.8 based on this or that.

Then if you have no interest in the series, why do you feel you must be a fuckwit and add more meaningless drivel to the thread and further derail it from it's intended target of discussing GTAIV?

I know all about Gerstmann gate but it has no bearing on this thread or discussion whatsoever and trying to explain it while bringing up Halo 3 along with it shows you're just being a jackass. If you haven't played the game or have no intention of doing so, how in the fuck can you think you know the differences between this game and the past versions? Yes, we all know the majority of reviews are generally wrong, but at least the reviewer can be given the benefit of the doubt because they actually played the fuckin game before passing judgement unlike certain people in this thread.

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Originally Posted by Jessykins <3

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Propped. Such an underrated gem. the music alone is worth the retail price. I've been trying to get pretty much the entirety of the live crew of skills,omagnus, tails, etc to buy the game but alas they don't listen.

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Originally Posted by OmagnusPrime

I just completed the story mode. Damn. Truly an brilliant game. Not perfect, but pretty bloody awesome when all is said and done. And as Jessy has said the possibility for expansion is exciting (colour me in anticipation for the DLC stuff).

Spoiler:

I think that is why the ending while awesome felt almost empty because I think they don't want to completely wrap up the Bellic Cousins storyline yet because of the eventual 2 Story pack DLC content coming in the future, which each pack is confrirmed by rockstar to have a minimum of 15+ hours worth of gameplay. Plus the phonecalls and what not you recieve from everyone afterward seems to allude to some shit that still isn't wrapped up in Liberty city.

Originally Posted by Musharraf

I doubt that there will be a new GTA anytime soon. Maybe in five, six years. At least I think that anything else would be pretty lame because Rockstar should not make the same mistake other game producers made and abstain from glutting the market with games like GTA XII and stuff like that.

No doubt we will see a new GTA game every two years, we just won't see a GTA V for 5-7 years.

There is a reason that Rockstar has about 10 different studios around the world. Each one handles certain games and so it's not just one development studio cranking out every single game with the R* logo.

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Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by take 2 games

Take-Two Interactive Announces Rockstar Games' Grand Theft Auto IV Breaks Entertainment Launch Records
Retail Sales of Grand Theft Auto IV Top $500 Million in First Week

Take-Two Interactive Announces Rockstar Games' Grand Theft Auto IV Breaks Entertainment Launch Records
Retail Sales of Grand Theft Auto IV Top $500 Million in First Week

New York, NY – May 7, 2008 – Take-Two Interactive Software, Inc. (NASDAQ: TTWO), said today that Grand Theft Auto IV has surpassed all-time entertainment records for day one and week one sales by dollar value. Released on Tuesday, April 29th, Grand Theft Auto IV, the critically acclaimed video game, has sold through to consumers approximately 6 million units globally with an estimated retail value of more than $500 million in the first week. Grand Theft Auto IV sold approximately 3.6 million units on its opening day with a retail value of approximately $310 million globally.

"We knew Grand Theft Auto IV would break new ground in terms of the player's experience, with its compelling story line, extraordinary gameplay and action that ranges over a broad urban canvas. Now, it has broken sales and rating records as well. Grand Theft Auto IV's first week performance represents the largest launch in the history of interactive entertainment, and we believe these retail sales levels surpass any movie or music launch to date. We congratulate the entire Rockstar team on creating a must-have experience that takes the legendary Grand Theft Auto franchise to a new level," said Strauss Zelnick, Chairman of Take-Two.

"Rockstar's goal is to make each new title in the Grand Theft Auto franchise even better than those that preceded it, and Grand Theft Auto IV is a smashing success on that score. Grand Theft Auto IV makes full use of the power of next generation technology, and offers players an experience unique in the interactive entertainment medium. This game sets a new standard in the industry, with critics hailing it as both an artistic and technological masterpiece," said Ben Feder, Take-Two's Chief Executive Officer.

Developed by series creator Rockstar North, Grand Theft Auto IV for the Xbox 360® video game and entertainment system from Microsoft and PLAYSTATION®3 computer entertainment system is rated "M" for Mature. For more information, log onto Rockstar Games: Grand Theft Auto IV.

Holy fuckin' shit. Knew it was gonna brake halo 3 records, but i didn't expect by this much. bravo Rockstar, you guys deserve it.

6 million copies moved worldwide and $500 million dollars made in one weeks time.

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