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[Multiplatform] Borderlands - Shootan and Lootan
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Old Oct 20, 2009, 06:31 AM #1 of 227
At least me, Kyndig (Goodhand) and Kaze (Mr Phong) will be picking this up for 360 this morning. Like I told Skills, honestly I'd consider double-dipping on the game via a 4-pack, but it's crazy game release time along with my backlog, don't think I can really justify it -_-.

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Old Oct 20, 2009, 05:42 PM #2 of 227
Game is awesome, as expected. Currently rolling as Lillith with a crazy damage SMG, Shotgun that has a high chance to do critical electrical damage, and a revolver that fires 7 rounds at once that reloads in about 0.25 seconds. Phasewalk was kinda so-so (mainly for bailing out of bad situations) until I started getting elemental stacks on top of it, right now I do pretty a pretty good electrical shockwave when I phase both in and out. Kills midgets pretty effectively.

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Old Oct 20, 2009, 10:10 PM #3 of 227
Luckily I hadn't planned on using Phase Strike really, but that still sucks.

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Old Oct 26, 2009, 07:31 PM #4 of 227
Don't know if it exists on PC, but on consoles there's a major bug where you lose all of your skill points -_-. Didn't happen to me, but I've seen at least a few different people post about it, it seems to be occuring on occasion when you accept an invite to another game without saving and exiting back to your title screen, or when you're joining an existing game when it's in the middle of auto-saving. So at least for now to be safe always save and exit to the title screen before accepting another Borderlands game invite, and if someone is joining your game hang tight for a second and don't move while they load in so you don't hit a checkpoint/auto save. Doesn't seem hugely widespread but the thread on it at Gearbox and Gamefaqs are both getting pretty lengthy of people having it happen.

Also has anyone actually played the PC version yet? Apparently it's fine for some people, but completely totally fucking broken and unplayable/crashing for everyone else?

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Old Oct 26, 2009, 11:12 PM #5 of 227
Yeah, aside from a lot of the tech issues people seem to be having, big thing seems to be connecting to online games at all. Also I don't know the details, but apparently you're able to go in and edit some of the PC files that makes large improvements to the FOV, Vsync, binding some useful keys, and other obvious things that should have been included in the game itself -_-.

Right now on 360 I've got a 41 Siren, 29 Hunter, and 11 Soldier. Got some bitchin' SMG for my siren that does x4 Fire damage with a scope, good clip, rate of fire and accuracy. Plus my SMG proficiency is so high (26?) and I've my skill maxed that adds chance to do elemental damage, plus I've got my Class Mod that gives me +48% SMG damage and +33% or so chance to land elemental damages. Even on 2nd Playthrough 90% of enemies I hit them with a couple of rounds, and insane fire damage kills them almost instantly. So fucking awesome.

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Old Oct 27, 2009, 04:23 PM #6 of 227
Skills asked for what I see when I play on my apparently shitty laptop:



It actually looks worse than this because my monitor tries to stretch to fit vertically, leaving me with a lot of blurriness that I actually kinda got used to.
....why did you get this on PC again?

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Old Oct 27, 2009, 10:10 PM #7 of 227
Man, it's crazy how it seems everywhere it's still almost nothing but issues and workarounds for the PC version, didn't think it'd be anywhere near this bad. Glad I didn't pick it up for PC after all. Our gaming PC laptop is pretty good, but if Moo's having those kinds of problems with his setup with his specs that's ridiculous.

Also I've 1000/1000'd the game, so my playtime is winding down now until the DLC hits, have fun :P

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Old Oct 27, 2009, 11:24 PM #8 of 227
I'm guessing he's referring to the bug that causes you to lose all of your skill points that I posted about on the last page. If he's not I have no clue.

Personally aside from little weird things here and there, the only thing I consistently had problems with was the final round of the Commons Arena quests (forget the name). That quest is soooo fucking glitchy, across 2 characters I probably had to quit out of the game entirely 3 or 4 times because enemies wouldn't load in so I'd be stuck in there, or I'd die and go back in and ALL of the enemies had respawned, and other fucked up shit. Did it 3 player tonight and it was a fucking mess of glitches, trigger points not happening, etc.

Edit: Fuck you guys and your quick responses.

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Old Oct 28, 2009, 10:33 PM #9 of 227
Hahaha, that'll change; I just bought a Class Mod that was 3.6 million.

Also even though the money counter maxes at 9,999,999, you can continue to accrue money past that, but you just can't see it, which is kind of lame.

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Old Nov 1, 2009, 11:36 PM #10 of 227
Yeah, basically we're complaining that the PC got the same crappy version that consoles did. And yet the release got delayed by more than a week while Gearbox worked on a patch.... for consoles.
My favorite part is that they patched things that I haven't seen anyone anywhere complain about, and failed to patch the character breaking 0-point skill bug that a lot of people are complaining about. Good job Gearbox!

It's pretty disappointing how the PC version has been fucked up though, for once I'm glad I didn't get the PC version of something. I'm pretty much done with the game (as in I've beaten it multiple times and have largely exhausted it's content), and they haven't fixed the main bug on consoles and the PC version is still a mess of workarounds that still don't work for some people -_-.

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Old Nov 2, 2009, 07:46 AM #11 of 227
This. I looked up the list of fixes that came with the patch, and I haven't seen any of these in game, nor have I heard much of anyone else bitching about them either.



I bought both because I figured there'd be a good amount of people playing the game on both, so it'd give me a chance to roll with a bunch of you dudes who only went with one or the other. 360 version has given me absolutely no problems whatsoever with online. Not really able to connect up to a game on the PC is way fucking bogus. Hell, the only game I've actually been able to do on the PC is when Skills tested it on me just to see if it would work, and it finally got up and going after a few attempts, but bringing a level 7 berserker into the Rust Commons is not a good way to level that character.

So you're saying you're NOT going to get the Zombie Island DLC when it comes out here pretty soon? I'll still get it because I am a raging homo when it comes to DLC for games I like, but to announce it before the game is even released (I'm looking at Resident Evil 5's Versus Mode, Capcom ) is just poor form.

Nah, I'll get the DLC, I guess I should rephrase that I'm pretty much done for right now. I've got a Level 50 Siren with 50 SMG Profiency, 4 x4 elemental scoped SMGs in each slot, with a high damage SMG Class Mod that regens ammo faster than I use it. I've messed around on a cleared 2nd playthrough for about 10 hours with her, and while I'm sure there's slightly to moderately better stuff available technically within the game, I so absolutely rape everything it's kinda eh. I've also got a lvl 40 Hunter on a 2nd playthrough, and a lower level Soldier and Berserker as well. I'm still down for multiplayer whenever though.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Nov 2, 2009, 07:18 PM #12 of 227
The 5 lines on Class Mods for console is annoying, but also explains how my sweetass Class Mod started giving me regen ammo for no particular reason.

Also I thought it'd already been posted as it's days old now, but pure "white"/pearlescent drops have been a confirmed glitch by Gearbox. I forget the exact explanation, but it's when some combination of things on the weapon cause the rarity scale to implode and fail. This is why all of the Pearlescent drops people were finding (including myself) were all total shit weapons. Dark Orange is as high as it goes, which sucks

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Old Nov 2, 2009, 07:55 PM #13 of 227
You consider Ammo Regen, Zoom rate and Crit Damage % useless? o_O

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Nov 2, 2009, 09:57 PM #14 of 227
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Doesn't seem exactly useless. Not really, like...the greatest shit I've ever seen but y'know.
I'd say I have found maybe 2 or 3 dozen sniper rifles better than that, at least. Agreed that it's not totally terrible, but eh.

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Old Feb 2, 2010, 07:34 PM #15 of 227
But is it ACTUALLY fixed?

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Old Feb 28, 2010, 09:26 AM #16 of 227
So overall, the new DLC is fucking awesome.

-Bunch of new enemy types and variants that are actually somewhat interesting. The loot midgets and midgets riding skags is hilarious.
-New loot; I haven't gotten any Pearlescents, but I got a really good Gearbox SMG, and I upgraded everything else I had that I entered it with (and I had basically top of the line shit when I came in)
-Characters and story are great. Was really surprised at the amount of new dialogue and story, there's some fantastic fucking lines. Overall I'd consider the DLC script to be superior to anything in the main game. ENGORGE
-There is quite literally a treasure chest heaven.
-Addition of a new super uber boss that can be re-farmed for (at least in theory) the best gear in the game.

I feel there's only two major things that are negatives, that prevent this from being the best DLC bar none:

-The cars and driving in general in Borderlands is still kinda broken. And the DLC is HUGE, but it basically requires you to drive a bunch, and there's some really cheap deaths you will die in your car. It doesn't forgive it, but once you've done it for a while and learned the enemy patterns, you can safely take shit out without being hit, or oftentimes just completely (and safely) blow past everything. I did probably die something like 10 times in a car, but 7 or 8 of those were like in the first 2 hours :/
-There's STILL no god damn teleports in the DLC outside of the one at the start. It was annoying as hell in the Zombie Island DLC, but it's 10 times worse here considering how long you have to drive to get to certain places. Hell, if there was a teleport in every area it'd probably wipe my other complaint out as well. No idea what the fuck they're doing with not having them.


Overall it's still fucking fantastic, and you should hands-down get it if you have the game. I went in as a 50 on playthrough 2.5 and didn't have a whole ton of problems (aside from the bullshit car deaths early on), you just can't go rush into a bunch of dudes like you've probably gotten used to. Doing it solo on playthrough 2.5, doing all of the DLC probably took me about 12 or so hours, which is pretty damn impressive, especially for $10.

Also the "Secret Final Boss" is a quest that opens up after you've beaten the main DLC quest, and he will rape your face. Unless you're a Siren you HAVE to do it with a full group. If you're attempting to do it solo there's one or two small exploits you can do, but it's still fucking madness. To give you an idea, I went in with a 61 Siren with pimped out gear, and even using an exploit to get it down to about 15% health, it still took me about 20 deaths to kill it and it was about the most frustrating thing I've ever done (I went from losing 26 million a death to $13 million). Thing is obviously meant for group play, practically everything in there will one-shot you. It would actually be kinda neat to go back and farm him with a group, but I've got no one else to do that with at the moment :/.

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Old Feb 28, 2010, 02:32 PM 1 #17 of 227
While the amount of new dialog is huge, I don't think any of them compared to the Scooby Doo spoof zombie island had.

Knox is one cheerful dude though, I give it that.

I'm only storming the armory right now, so I'm about half way through.
The Scooby Doo thing did absolutely nothing for me.

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Old Feb 28, 2010, 10:17 PM #18 of 227
Motorhead is ridiculously easy to kill. I don't remember him dropping anything anywhere near that good though. I don't use machineguns at all, but if I'd seen anything that good I would have kept it for my friend. On the other hand he is repeatable, so maybe it's just something he drops sometimes.

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