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Is anyone else playing this? I've been playing the PS3 beta, and even though graphically this version looks like shit this beta is straight up the best game I've played all year, it's absolutely fucking phenomenal. The description of "it's like they made PSO into a FPS game with all of the best parts of Halo and Borderlands" is pretty much dead on. I was pretty down on the game (but had faith in Bungie) prior to this, but holy shit.

What did get me to actually play this though is everything is saved server-side (it requires online) and while you can't move between MS and Sony systems, you have full access to your character and stuff between PS3 and PS4, or 360 and Xbox One. In my case I'm still hoping to swing a PS4 for this game's launch, but if I can't now I can just scrub it out on the PS3 version until I can get a PS4, then everything full carries over with no time wasted.

Highly recommend folks check this out if you can. Apparently if you pre-ordered either Xbox version when you put in the pre-order code on bungie.net to get your console code they give you two extras.

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Did you play the Alpha or the Beta? I know they significantly toned down the Spider Tank health from the Alpha. In the Beta if you're hitting it's weak points properly it should take a group of 3 players less than 5 minutes to kill it, no idea what to tell you there. For a tank that can't move out of the limited area it's in the AI is pretty good, at least on Hard. On Hard that thing one one shot you if you give it the slightest chance.

Gear pacing is kind of all over the place, and I'm almost positive they've said they're actively looking at beta feedback for tweaking it. For what it's worth I tend to get a lot of drops and usually not duplicates (although sometimes), but the gear and pacing either way is super hard to judge from such a limited beta so it's hard to say how that will pan out long term. On 360 me and two friends just hit the level cap in like 2 hours so yeah.

PvP is the only thing I'm not super hot on, but I also haven't given it much of a fair shake, largely because I goddamn hate the DS3 for FPS games. I noticed a huge immediate improvement with the 360 controller, so now that I'm at the cap I'll check that out tomorrow. In general people seem to be really hot or really cold on PvP. It's not really what I care about that much, but they seem to be tying useful gear behind it.

Even between the beta last week and what went up tonight we did notice some changes, and the framerate jankiness/jutter seems to be gone as well (which urk seemingly confirmed on GAF tonight) so that's an improvement as well, I know that was really bugging some people.

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The spider tank still shouldn't be taking you 10 minutes if you're doing it right. That aside, I think it's at least partially intentional as it's treating things more like an MMO. I think the orb/sphere boss thing after the tank does a much better job of it since it's still a bullet sponge but it's moving around a lot and spawning other mobs and whanot the whole time. Urk said on GAF that they had some sort of hardcore FPS clan come in during internal testing, and the final in-game Raid (which is apparently called that and is a different mission-type altogether) is super nuts, and the clan gave up on trying to clear it after 16 hours or something crazy.

I think some sort deep appreciation of Borderlands, Halo, or PSO is helpful here as well. It's been a long time since I have seen the internet go this collectively apeshit over a game, but it seems like most folks that due really love at least one of those three things. I have co-workers who barely play games who are pulling all-nighters playing this, it's crazy. Like, I get why I love the game since it's well made for grinding (see me and Diablo 3, Borderlands, etc) but I'm shocked at how well received it has been generally.

PvP I think will potentially be way more interesting once we unlock other subclasses and stuff. I've seen footage from IGN and other places of later subclass abilities and it starts getting bonkers (Warlocks can freeze themselves in mid-air and aim, Hunters get crazy fast AOE blade attacks, etc).

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I don't know that we know much about how the Raid structure works, so no idea about any of the checkpoint stuff. Also on the spider tank there's actually an angle where you can hit it's weak point at any time, and Warlocks also can fuck it up with their gravity grenade things. I did two runs of that Strike today with two friends and I think we can do it in like 3-4 minutes tops now on Hard. It's still not a great encounter though no.

I will say though I just played PvP for the first time using a 360 controller AND with 2 friends and it is a significantly better experience. The DS3 is a piece of shit for FPS games, I immediately had a way better time aiming, and playing with friends hugely mitigates the random shitty asshole factor. Literally went from a .5 K/D on PS3 to rocking 2.5-3.0 K/D and dominating every match. The PvP is kinda weird, it reminds me of Mass Effect multiplayer in a way. It's hard to say how it works out balance-wise though; like right now the Hunter Super we have access to kinda sucks for PvP (takes too long to activate, etc) but the subclass Super that you don't have access to in the Beta seems baller as hell. Once you can the hang of things I'm having an alright time of it though.

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The 360 version looks way better than the PS3 version graphically. I can't personally speak on X1 to PS4, apparently PS4 looks better but it's not a significant amount. The X1 beta also isn't running at 1080p which they're saying the final release will, so who knows.

I'm not 100% sure what I'm doing system wise. I have one friend who is going all in on PS4, then pretty much everyone else is is going 360. Which is fine, the problem there is long-term; somewhere down the line we're going to have a split because some people are going PS4, but we have a couple that will go X1. Right now I'm going to wait to see if I can swing a PS4 by the game's launch (I should know beforehand either way). If I can I'm going PS4 and that's pretty much that. If I can't then at that point I'll have to decide if I want to deal with the shitty PS3 version for a while then when I can get a PS4 I'll move over to that and keep all my progress, or if I want to go 360 to play with more people but will then have to start completely over on PS4. There's no scenario where I get an Xbox One over a PS4 so starting on 360 wouldn't be a long-term plan.

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Yeah, I've played a lot more of PvP and I like it, but it's nearly impossible to say how it will wind up in the final product because we'll need access to all of the subclasses and new weapons and whatnot. It's potentially interesting at least and isn't outright busted if nothing else. But yeah, still really enjoying it a ton.

Also if you play tomorrow between 5-7pm Pacific they're unlocking the Moon story mission for those 2 hours only. They also finally showed the emblem you'll get in the final release if you play during those 2 hours as a beta exclusive emblem, details on all that here: Bungie : News

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Originally Posted by OmagnusPrime

Yeah I can't say I enjoyed that PvP stuff as the Titan at all. The Hunter and Warlock powers are much better, particularly the Hunter's from how it played out. Also seemed like my guns just weren't good enough to do much damage. I imagine with a crew of us it could be decent-enough, and I suspect I'll have multiple characters in the final thing so if one class is better suited to things I can switch to that. But yeah, it's the rest of it that I really enjoyed and the PvP stuff is the least interesting right now.

Hunter has by far the worst Super currently in PvP; the startup to activate it takes too long unless you can pre-emptively do it, and it's easy as hell to avoid other players who have it. I win encounters versus Hunters trying to Golden Gun me 9 times out of 10. The Titan totally has the best Super right now, you crazy. You're close to invulnerable when you're doing it, and it's virtually a guaranteed one-shot kill on anything within it's generous radius when you do it.

Also with the gun damage thing were you playing regular PvP or Iron Banner? In Iron Banner your full weapon/damage/armor stats come in. In regular PvP all damage and armor stats are normalized across the board; individual stats on guns like rate of fire, sights, etc carry over but the damage stat doesn't, so guns can make a slight difference there but not hugely.

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I'll join but I won't be on PS4 for a while, still on last gen. Right now I've got a 360 copy coming from Gamefly because most of my regular console gaming crew is still on there. As soon as we're all able though we're moving to PS4, hopefully within the next few months (which is also why I don't want to spend $60 on an Xbox copy).

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Yeah, the game is WILDLY inconsistent quality-wise. I'll probably write up something at some point, but I agree with the general sentiment that it's a "beautiful mess" of a game. At it's super fundamental center it's a blast to play, but what the game is actually filled with to do is not super great. I'm still playing it because it scratches a great OCD itch I have, and it's fun with friends. I'm not sure what kind of long-term prospects I have with it.

100% agree with all of the comparisons to Assassins Creed 1 where they have the backbone and framework for an amazing game, then AC2 knocked it out of the park. In this case I think there's a lot of things they can patch in short-term for improvements. I'm curious to see what the first paid DLC that hits in December is like.

Still not sure how I feel about Crucible, partially because I haven't really gotten to play with friends in it. It seems general bullshit all around though; WAYYYYYYY too much shit one-shots you. I feel like most of my deaths AND kills are kinda bullshit; a lot of "man if I was that guy I just killed I'd be pissed". I think my main issue with it is that I sometimes lose encounters where I can't tell if it was a skill issue or a gear issue. Even with level advantages disabled stats on weapons like Impact very much matter, and I don't get any feedback on to if I lost that encounter because all things being equal I would have won but his shit was slightly better than mine, or what. Makes it hard to improve.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Outside of maybe grinding a bit when your friends aren't on, I would not recommend this game to anyone playing solo or mostly solo. It's equivalent to Borderlands (or worse) in that regard.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

This is a pretty good summation of Crucible:



Sorry for the shit quality. All of those drops are blues except the top 2. Also this was on Control, and I had more captures than anyone else.

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Originally Posted by [UNWANTED GRUNTING]

Yeah, these staged MP examples aren't going to be anything like what the final game will play like.

And after the last few Tom Clancy's whatevers, I'd be hard pressed to be that psyched about anything further. We'll see.

Actually press at E3 got to play the game and they all said it actually shockingly did play out exactly like the stage demo. I agree with the sentiment though that all of the TC games have been going down the shitter for a while now, so we'll see.

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So how is trading the game in working out skills

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At this point you seem to be playing it more than even I was, so what the fuck is going on bro. You seemed pretty mad there.

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That's fine, I just like how I randomly saw you mention on GAF that you had cleared the Raid which I didn't even do and was like what the fuck. $25 is pretty shit. So are you actually liking the game anymore or what? It's a weird fucking beast, frequently I wondered why I was playing it but then I kept playing it. Returned the 360 Gamefly copy I had, I may wind up renting the PS3 version just to have at least a character near endgame for whenever I get a PS4 in the hopefully near future. The DS3 is fucking garbage for shooters, but I figure I could get a character up and just not touch the Crucible or something. Also seeing that you can now use a DS4 on PS3 without having to have it plugged in, but did see some people say that Destiny has some weird issues in that regard.

Also out of curiosity what games have I played recently that I get consistently angry at? Legitimate question, I feel like I've made a point of stopping doing that years ago once I stopped caring about achievements and I'm wondering if i'm just drawing a blank on something more recent.

Also TOTALLY UNRELATED, but Bad Company 2 is the free XBL Gold game right now, I got a bunch of people to download it but I don't think you have Gold anymore

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Yeah, the last week and a half or so I played it was mostly just our social party chat game, and I was helping people clear Nightfall and the Daily at the highest levels etc. PvP is still shit, although I'm good at it so I'd do the easy Crucible bounties, but never touched IB. And although I'm honestly not super excited about it or anything, with the new Borderlands coming out next week I'd rather play that instead so returned my Gamefly copy of Destiny to snag that.

Also yeah I played BC2 a bit this morning, actually had a really good time with it. I'd only put in about 6 hours on the multiplayer when it first came out since it just didn't really click with me and I found it frustrating if we weren't the majority of a team, but I had a good time with it this morning messing around. It's aged a bit graphically but otherwise actually holds up surprisingly well. Probably not enough to resub to Gold just for that or anything though.

Jam it back in, in the dark.