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[PS2] Final Fantasy XII
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Old Mar 14, 2006, 10:34 PM Local time: Mar 15, 2006, 11:34 AM #1 of 4284
Whoa, awesomeness! Those in China said they bought it for about 300RMB, so it's much cheaper than Japan. I'm going over to my friend's place to see if he got hold of it and probably stay there for a few hours to watch him play.

Is the soundtrack even out? I thought the official release date is 19/4/2006?

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Old Mar 16, 2006, 02:41 AM Local time: Mar 16, 2006, 03:41 PM #2 of 4284
Someone ripped 2 FMVs, one is the opening, the other I'm not too sure yet. Shall I post up the torrents?

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Old Mar 16, 2006, 07:55 AM Local time: Mar 16, 2006, 08:55 PM #3 of 4284
Originally Posted by Hello_Kitty
Okay, major beginning spoilers here :

Spoiler:


Ashe is married that dude she appears to be in love with.

The war begins, the same dude and other important people are talking about it in front of a really fancy digital table > Basch arrives and the dude learns his dad (the king) is probably dead

The dude becomes King of Damalsca

War continues

King Dude of Damalsca dies

Ashe cries, i liked that because i though it was a forced marriage

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Tutorial, i didn't really get what's going on there, we see Vayne for the first time and he seems to control Basch with a magic spell

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Now controlling Vaan, killing some rats in the sewers for money i suppose, the little brat with Vaan is really impressed by Vaan skills... for killing rats great :juggler:

and that's only what i understood
Just in case..
Spoiler:
Just seen the opening CG...is it me or did they cut out the scene where Ashe meets Rasura and holds his hand (also shown in Kiss Me Goodbye Japanese PV)?

And it should be pretty obvious that it wasn't forced marriage, Ashe was smiling all the way throughout the ceremony


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Old Mar 18, 2006, 03:41 AM Local time: Mar 18, 2006, 04:41 PM #4 of 4284
Well...even pictures of the final boss is out, so it's no surprise if they can tell that
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a character dies. Although...they may be referring to Ashe's husband, Rasler? Heh, I even heard people saying that all the female characters will die, leaving the guys at the end of the game.


You never know, it's been 2 days since the Japanese version was released, probably some FF fan in Japan had already completed the game..

Initial release date for the English version was set in August, then now pushed to November...

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Old Mar 19, 2006, 08:01 PM Local time: Mar 20, 2006, 09:01 AM #5 of 4284
Originally Posted by B4-Hunter
Well I know a good site (http://ff12trans.pbwiki.com/) besides it's not hard to gues what they are saying if you understand 1 from 5 words spoken =D
Wait till you get missions of some kind and you might get lost not knowing what to do

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Mar 20, 2006, 03:24 AM Local time: Mar 20, 2006, 04:24 PM #6 of 4284
Oops, sorry Effloresce, I forgot to reply your question earlier.

The pictures of the final boss was posted on March 17, about a day after the release (but they probably got hold of the game earlier).

And now the FMVs of the ending are already posted a day later (March 18).

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Old Mar 20, 2006, 06:08 AM Local time: Mar 20, 2006, 07:08 PM #7 of 4284
Great site Hunter, thanks

For those who are interested..

http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=htownpaablo

Tons of FMV with big spoilers

And translation of the story-

http://www.1up.com/do/userFAQ?cId=6736107&cmId=2006397

As well as the Licence Grid in English-

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...eGridFinal.png

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Old Mar 20, 2006, 10:47 PM Local time: Mar 21, 2006, 11:47 AM #8 of 4284
Originally Posted by Effloresce
What sucks is, when I first heard who it was, it was from a 2chan thread that has been more or less proven to be false based on some people I've been talking to.

But when I first posted here a couple days ago, I didn't know that to be true for sure; I thought it was true, however. So I clicked on Craze's spoiler a couple pages back for further confirmation, and he says something completely different. :\ As soon as I could tell I quickly looked away, but I saw a key word, and when reading about FFXII characters on Wikipedia later on... it clicked. So I think I know who the boss is and how they are related to the story/characters. I don't know specific details, or how anything unravels, but I'm pretty confident I figured out who the final boss is.

This kind of pisses me off. Well, in fact, it is driving me nuts. FFXII seems like a standout title, one that is different from all of the other stories. For quite a while it has been my most anticipated game. All I know is that I hope there's a lot more to this game's story that will hold my interest.

I'm not giving Craze a hard time here; he didn't know. I should have just went with my gut instinct that turned out to be right and never posted anything pertaining to the final boss because what I "knew" was untrue. Now I think know this for sure... and possibly in the worst way.

Craze, please tell me you didn't see these pics yourself and you are just going off of 2chan chatter.
Hmm, sorry Effloresce but I think I didn't reveal too much? Which spoilers I posted are you referring to now? Cause I think all I did say was
Spoiler:
possibilities of a character dying. And what I said about females dying and only males alive, well it's untrue


For the pics, I didn't see them but I'm through with the FMVs Well I guess I can say the final boss isn't too hard to predict

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Old Mar 20, 2006, 10:59 PM Local time: Mar 21, 2006, 11:59 AM #9 of 4284
Originally Posted by Effloresce
Not reading that

As for your question, I dunno, look a couple pages back. I didn't read the whole thing as soon as I saw you talk about something I was totally not expecting. But I saw a couple words as I glanced that may have given something away.

And when were you "through" with the FMV's?

I guess you hate FF? It has to suck playing the game if you know everything that happens.
Yep, I think go back a few pages and I think my spoilers were on the characters, but nothing big, really? Or maybe I should flip back more pages..

lol, wrong usage of words I guess, I mean I'm about nearly done with the FMVs of the game already. No, I don't hate FF of course, but I've been busy with school work lately so I won't have so much time playing.

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Old Mar 21, 2006, 01:17 AM Local time: Mar 21, 2006, 02:17 PM #10 of 4284
Originally Posted by Effloresce
The ONLY one I read is on Page 15 when you were replying to me, saying pics hit the Internet so it should be no surprise that... something. Not a big deal?

I saw some names, and some words describing certain relationships... but that's all. I didn't put it all together but based on some other information I think I may have a pretty solid idea. Unless what you posted wasn't a big deal.
Right, I think we're talking about the same thing. I mentioned pictures of the final boss is out, so it's no surprise that... I didn't mention any names, did I? I wasn't actually trying to imply anything, but just stating the possibility. What I posted can't be counted as spoiler, since it doesn't really reflect anything, unless you picked up stuff from elsewhere. (which you mention you did )

I'd choose not to spoil myself, but having to juggle time between school and work I barely have time for games now, I can only play about 4 hours max a week. It's already 3 months now and I'm barely halfway through Star Ocean III.

Actually in the demo that came with DQVIII I remember monsters did attack other monsters...so who knows? I'll have to double check on that.

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You'll find the strangest combinations of like a Flim Flan teaming up with like a Bird or something which really don't have much in common, but the only thing on their agenda is to KILL YOU. I think this is why I generally enjoy fighting human like characters (seeing in the first few clips of FFXII) because you know the enemies have a reason to hunt your party down -
Well you can't expect them to always come in group, it might be a little boring after a while. Besides, they're monsters, so I guess their only instinct is to get rid of you? Doesn't really matters which monsters team up..

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Old Mar 21, 2006, 09:03 PM Local time: Mar 22, 2006, 10:03 AM #11 of 4284
Haha, alright then probably we should stop discussing it then, or things might spill out

When I posted my reply on what you said I knew who's the final boss, plus some confirmation on a few stuff from friends.

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Old Mar 23, 2006, 03:10 AM Local time: Mar 23, 2006, 04:10 PM #12 of 4284
Originally Posted by B4-Hunter
Anyone got his hands on Cover scan yet? I'm still looking for it. It was easier to find MGS3 SUB Existance Cover scan then FF XII =P.

As for the game it self I'm on 8:30+ and having a great fun with it =D
So it was you who wanted it..hope this helps!



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Old Mar 23, 2006, 06:17 AM Local time: Mar 23, 2006, 07:17 PM #13 of 4284
Hmm, guess your friends just played through the game without completing the side quests then?

Spoiler:
Any mentions of character relationships for the ending?


Sorry it wasn't any help Hunter, if I come across better scans I'll let you know.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Mar 23, 2006, 09:41 AM Local time: Mar 23, 2006, 10:41 PM #14 of 4284
Originally Posted by CuteChocobo
Heh, I was talking to him on phone just then so I asked him the question you asked! He said that he completed almost ~90% of the game, only the troublesome side quests and a few other optional skills are missed! His clock hits 138 Hrs since the first day release @ 10am until yesterday.

Hmm, don't understand your spoiler's question >_<
My Personal interpretation of your question with answer:
For relationship, you mean what happends to each individual characters at the end? Coz I can't really tell ya with out BIG spoilers
Wow, 138 hours without completing sidequests is considered pretty long! Although from what I've seen so far it doesn't look like a very long game...

About the spoiler..

[spoile]Sorry for being so unclear. Yeah, I meant what happened to each character at the end. I understand romance and love relationships aren't the main concern in FFXII, but I'm just curious since I've heard few things [/spoiler]

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Old Mar 27, 2006, 09:23 AM Local time: Mar 27, 2006, 10:23 PM #15 of 4284
It's not exactly free, is it? You have to buy all the Mimette Greens, and tons of other expensive food...the stables aren't cheap either

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Old Mar 31, 2006, 02:41 AM Local time: Mar 31, 2006, 03:41 PM #16 of 4284
I thought all FF covers usually follow the Jap release? At least that's what I remember for FFVII and VIII. I wouldn't mind them putting the picture of Balthier holding Ashe though :P

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Old Jun 21, 2006, 11:41 PM Local time: Jun 22, 2006, 12:41 PM #17 of 4284
October, huh? That's another 3 month+ to go. And I thought it was gonna be a long wait...I'll just kill time with Grandia, Shadow Hearts and VP for the timebeing

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Old Jul 4, 2006, 12:52 AM Local time: Jul 4, 2006, 01:52 PM #18 of 4284
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My favorite part of the trailer: "From the people that brought you Final Fantasy!" Oh really? XD
lol, but am I the only one who heard "From the creators of Final Fantasy"? Nevermind, I'll rewatch the trailer. The first time around I had really bad background music.

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Speaking of which, I wonder how many dumbass EB games/Gamestop employees will get FFXII and FFX-2 mixed up.
Heck, customers here even get those 2 mixed up. They saw the Japanese version of FFXII and went 'hey did they change the cover or something?' Also, last year 2 teenagers who saw FFX on the shelve went 'Hey it's FF-AXE!' made me cringe.

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Old Oct 9, 2006, 07:13 AM Local time: Oct 9, 2006, 08:13 PM #19 of 4284
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I'm wondering is anyone else getting HUGE loading times in the game?I'm talking plus 1 minute for some areas? Sometimes my ingame cut scenes look up too
I think no game beats Magna Carta in terms of loading time :P I'm about 2 hours+ into the game and I don't have problems with loading times, takes about few seconds?

So far about 2 hours 30 mins into the game, and it's great. I wouldn't say it's perfect, but very few games nowadays manage to get my attention and I'm somewhat addicted to FFXII already.

Like the idea of all characters being able to use the same weapons/accessories etc, but I must say gils and LP are really hard to come by. Clocking in 2 hours+ I only have 300Gil...and when did a simple potion cost 70G?

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Old Oct 9, 2006, 07:59 AM Local time: Oct 9, 2006, 08:59 PM #20 of 4284
Originally Posted by JazzFlight
You are selling loot, right?

Sell all loot except for:

-Teleport Stones
-Gysahl Greens
-Snake skin (that you get from the Nidhogg quest, but it's not too important if you sell it, it's just used in a quest to get a normal item you could buy later)
Yeah, but they don't worth a lot right now (stones, pelts etc). And I have a bad habit of keeping at least 1 item of everything just in case I need them later on. So it's safe to sell off all loots acquired besides the ones you mentioned?

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Old Oct 10, 2006, 06:39 AM Local time: Oct 10, 2006, 07:39 PM #21 of 4284
I think the slowest loading time I had was about 15 seconds. Didn't know what took so long..

About 4 hours into the game and still in Giza plains right now, trying to do some levelling up. I'm surprised that treasures are re-spawning, and it makes me glad that at least you're rewarded by revisiting the area

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Old Oct 14, 2006, 07:49 AM Local time: Oct 14, 2006, 08:49 PM #22 of 4284
Out of 5 people I asked so far, only 1 disliked the battle system. I think I adapted pretty well to the battle system although it's pretty new to me, no thanks to my under exposure to online games. I currently have my lead without gambit, and other characters on gambit..I do agree that it gets pretty easy after a while since the AI is controlling everything...I do miss the old turn-based system. But I can't say this is bad, it really depends on how you see it.

About 11 hours into the game and there's nothing much to the story yet, so maybe the story will be one of the weaker ones among the rest.

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Old Oct 23, 2006, 11:54 PM Local time: Oct 24, 2006, 12:54 PM #23 of 4284
Originally Posted by lordo
Hey guys I just have a question for those that have beaten or about 20 hours in it about an enemy
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Is there anyway to beat the elementals? Especially in the storm giza planes and the desert? Perhaps reflect then cast spells on it? Their spells always take off so much


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I haven't reached there yet but from what I've heard..

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You can wait till the weather changes and there won't be elementals when the sandstorm's gone.


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Old Nov 2, 2006, 10:31 PM Local time: Nov 3, 2006, 11:31 AM #24 of 4284
Originally Posted by Musharraf
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I guess you need to use those seeds from the flower you picked at the spot where you met the Moogle, it will be much more easier then. Otherwise, in my opinion, you won't have a chance at all.


Oh, and yeah, that faggot who "designed" Vaan's "sixpack" should be shot.
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At level 17+ (I think) I managed to defeat Garuda easily without using the seed. I actually defeated the Yensa-eater thing but I forgot going back to the moogle. So yeah....that Garuda is weak against one of the magicks, either aero or thunder. I casted a few rounds and it was down soon after.


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Old Nov 3, 2006, 09:19 AM Local time: Nov 3, 2006, 10:19 PM #25 of 4284
Originally Posted by Freelance Wolf
Man, this game is tough. I'm currently at the Leviathan and I got my ass handed to me repeatedly in that fight with the 6 soldiers. Ouch! The more enemies in an area, the harder it is.

Since it's pretty much the first healing spell you get besides that crappy First Aid, I don't like how it takes forever just to cast Cure. Oftentimes the person dies before you even cast it.
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I'm assuming you're underlevelled or something since Leviathan is pretty early in the game and you have Vossler with you, correct? I didn't have much trouble either, just play around with your magicks sometime. Dark and immobilise really helps when you're against a group of enemies.

As for curing, perhaps you should set your gambit- Allies HP<20/30%- Potion. I'm pretty sure it'd be better than betting on Cure.


So far the difficulty is just alright for me, except for some mob hunts where they could smash your party in one blow. Or perhaps I haven't played enough (on my way to Ozmose Plains)

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