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Male Reproductive Rights
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David4516
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Old Mar 10, 2006, 05:19 AM Local time: Mar 10, 2006, 02:19 AM #1 of 178
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I would disagree with this. Given a situation in which my partner became pregnant but felt she didn't want to go through with pregnancy I would argue that I have a right to fight for that child's life. I understand I don't have the responsibility of carrying and delivering the child but I think I would be pretty upset if I knew I was a father but my partner made a decision to terminate the pregnancy and I ultimately could do nothing about it.
I agree. I think as long as at least one parent WANTS the child, there is no reason to abort it.

In fact I have to question why anyone would want an abortion. A parents primary duty is to protect their child, correct? I have no respect for a parent who would kill their own child just to make their (the parents) life a little easier. Thats what abrotion is all about after all...

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Old Mar 11, 2006, 05:07 AM Local time: Mar 11, 2006, 02:07 AM #2 of 178
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Oh yes abortion is so evil. Lets force those rape victims to carry that bastard child. Lets force parents who cannot support a child have one so the child can starve and suffer thier whole life. Lets force mothers and fathers to have children with birth defects or disabilities thier whole life. I mean, it doesn't matter if the child has no chance of surviving or will never be able to function or grow in our world correctly. Because it's the right thing to let that baby be born!
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Give me a break. Just because some people abuse the system doesn't mean it's wrong. There are some valid reasons to cancel a pregnancy.
Hang on, I never said that there arn't valid reasons for abortion. There are, however "I don't feel like raising a child" is NOT one of them. If you aren't willing to risk a pregnacy, then don't have sex. It's very simple really.

Let me tell you "pro-choice" folks a little story. I was an accident, my parents were not married at the time that I was concieved, and they were most certainly NOT planning on having children at that point. They were just college students after all. Now, this is a perfect example of a situation where you guys would say "abort, abort!!!".

However, my parents did the right thing. They got married, and my dad went out and found a job, and supported my mom and I. It wasn't easy for them (or me for that matter), but they did it anyway. In fact I have a great deal of resepect for my parents, because they made some big and difficult changes in their own lives for my sake, when they could have just as easily aborted me.

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Old Mar 11, 2006, 01:16 PM Local time: Mar 11, 2006, 10:16 AM #3 of 178
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What you still fail to realize is that it's impossible to determine individual motives for abortion.
I don't really understand what you mean by that... you just listed a whole bunch of "motives", so how is it impossible?

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Let's say your parents decided to abort you. They're both in college, both have very small if any income, everything screams of economic infeasability.
I don't think it's right to end a life just to save a few bucks. And just because something seems difficult doesn't mean you should just give up.

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But what if, say, your mom had a weak heart, and giving birth to you could kill her?
If giving birth will likely kill the mother, I think it's reasonable to want an abortion.

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What if your dad beat her, and she didn't want to bring his child into the world?
Thats a tricky one... but I think it would be better to just leave the father and raise the child alone (or put the child up for adoption) than to have the abortion. It's hard to say though, this particular case is a no-win-situation no matter what you do...

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What if she faced the threat of disownment if she had a child?
That would be a pretty lame excuse IMHO. I believe that your responsibility to protect your child outweighs your responsibility to your parents...

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What your parents did was admirable on many levels, and while you may be here today, I can guarantee you that you wouldn't care if you had been aborted.
Weather or not I "care" is irrelavent. Say I kill you in your sleep. I guarantee you wouldn't care (because you wouldn't see it coming). Does that make it okay?

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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