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The Gospel of Judas Iscariot
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PUG1911
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Old May 21, 2006, 03:58 AM #1 of 75
Originally Posted by SuperBobby
All Christian and 99% of NON Christian scholars and historians also AGREE that the 4 Gospels that are in the Christian bible were all written beforee 95 AD..and the only one written that late was the Gospel of John, yet it WAS written by him because he lived to a very old age and also wrote revelation.
John also followed Jesus from the first teachings to the time Jesus assended into heaven..therefore getting his info first hand.
So you expect us to believe that nearly all historians agree that John lived for over 100 years during a time when life expectancy was very short? What leads them to believe that this one person not only lived longer than average, but at least double the average, without question? I would love to know why this is obvious to them, when it defies any standard of common sense. That it is technically possible, though statistically improbable doesn't usually cut it from my experiences.

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Originally Posted by SuperBobby
You're forgetting the most important thing.
He is GOD. You are a mere human. He owes you NO explanation...and the reason he made some laws that included stoning, was to punish those who did not follow HIS law. What is fair to God...may not seem fair to you . His intelligents level is at a high that you cannot comprhend. Deal with it...There is NO contradiction here.
So basically, what we may perceive as a contradiction, with our mere human senses and potentially flawed logic don't count. They only appear to be contradictions, but since it's God, who by definition we cannot comprehend, then it doesn't have to make sense. How then can we, in good conscience, interpret God's actions, and guess at God's will, in deciding how he intended us to?

Originally Posted by SuperBobby
The capture and captivity of the Jews in Babylon.
This is a point that I've heard argued against actually, or perhaps it was a similar one. But could you please point me to a non-biblical source that coroborates (sp?) the enslavement of Jews in Babylon/Egypt? I'd appreciate it.

Originally Posted by SuperBobby
Non Christian Scholars will agree too. This is not something they argue about.
In fact....we are now at a point where the only thing about (Christianity and the bible) that gets argued about is the deity of Jesus and whether he rose from the dead or not.
You have to realize how false your statements about nearly all scholars etc. believing the same things, and there being nearly no debate on these issues. It's argued all the time, for all kinds of angles, and nearly every single point/issue is argued as well. It has *not* been just accepted as fact by almost all scholars, at least not in it's entirety.

Jam it back in, in the dark.
"The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote."

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PUG1911
I expected someone like you. What did you expect?


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Old May 21, 2006, 05:46 PM #2 of 75
Originally Posted by SuperBobby
Considering I'm debating against pretty much everyone, I'd be looking up and citing text all day. I just don't have time to cite everything. If someone is truely interested in 1 or 2 things, then I don't finding some documents.
At the moment I'm not trying to argue with you. What I would like is to read the sources you have, both Christian and non-Christian which give the 99%+ statistic you've been using, and some regarding the non-biblical evidence of jewish slavery in Egypt. I'm especially curious about the latter.

Thanks in advance for the time and effort in enlightening me.

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PUG1911
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Old May 22, 2006, 08:40 PM #3 of 75
Originally Posted by SuperBobby
I've given great links and searches that will put the proof of everything I say. I don't have time to cut and past and cite all these sources. I have no reason to lie to anyone.
You have not provided any links in this thread. I ran the search, but my cursory look at some of the sites didn't really help me. If you could please provide links to sites discussing non-biblical proof of the Exodus from Egypt I'd very much appreciate it. Having done so much research into things, your input would be greatly appreciated.

Here's a site that mentions a lack of proof outside of the bible. http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/egyptexodus.htm

Your turn.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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