The annual Seal Hunt

Whalers are harassed all the time, as are many, many other hunters etc. These don't affect you as they occur elsewhere. The issue in your area is that of the seal hunt, and so, you'll be harassed about it.

Plus the argument that other animals are 'cruely killed' is hardly a great defence for the pro-sealing argument. If others do a thing, but it's something that you feel is cruel, does that somehow make it alright? I'd like to think one's personal views on the issue vis a vis cruelty or whatever other metric matters to you would be more important than 'Well sally's mom lets her stay up until eight.' or it's seal clubbing equivalent.

Not that I really have a stance on the issue one way or the other, just that the last argument on the matter seemed a little off.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Jackyboy,

So Canada is a lawless country? Sounds a might extreme. Any links to back that up would be great. First time I've heard of it in that kind of light, and would very much like to know the other areas wherein Canadian law is lacking.

"They observed sealers at work from the air and from the ground, and performed post-mortems on 73 seal carcasses. Their study concluded that up to 42% of the seals they examined were likely skinned alive." This is from the link you posted earlier. So, of the million seals killed in a season, a study of 73 bodies leads to the conclusion that 42% were skinned alive? How can a sample of 73 carcasses which were chosen based on the appearance of illegal sealing practices possibly be representative of the entire hunt?

If I look at 6 inmates on death row, and 3 of them have commited murder. Does that mean that 50% of the population has commited murder?

The size of a sample, and the way in which it was chosen makes a world of difference.

Also, I'm still waiting on that second difference between humans and other animals. Reason, and?...

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Elendil

Actually, in this case, it does. This is one case where you would want to check your facts before posting; I had a suspicion you were wrong before I even did a 10 second search.






Source: Wikipedia

Perhaps I wasn't clear. My point was trying to illustrate that the percentages of known (inmates) or suspected (those observed using questionable hunting/skinning methods) is not a great way to extrapolate for the rest of the population.

What I was trying to say is that death row inmates are murderers yes. But you'd have to be a fool to believe that those numbers can apply to the *rest* of the population. Same thing sounds to have happened with the seal hunting story.

As for provincial law regarding animal rights, this was the first link that appeared as though it might be relevent. http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/DBLaws/S...sh/90o36_e.htm

So yeah, I doubt any province or territory really allows animals to be treated poorly on an owner's whim. And where is it again that animals are *not* considered property?

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by JackyBoy

Also people stop being so damn passive in your use of argumentation.

Political debates turn into one side screaming at the other with their ears plugged quickly enough. No need to encourage the practice.

Originally Posted by JackyBoy

There are likely several factors to explain low fish stocks (seals may be one of those factors) but I think it's wrong to target seals because that happens to be the easiest, cheapest and conveniently most profitable short term solution.

So the solution should not be easy, cheap, or profitable? What alternatives do you suggest?

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?