Share The Road.

Bikers feel entitled to the road. (Sometimes I feel that a nice brush with death might change their mind, but I digress.) I mean its within their rights to wear spandex. Isn't it within that same right to claim that a car should give way to a bike? No?
I DON'T blame them for being a minor nuisance... why ride on a perfectly good sidewalk when the infinitely more dangerous road is beckoning?

It's like they think the sidewalk is more hazardous. I've seen bikers avoid the road as if it were a congo battlefield littered with landmines. Either that or bikers aren't MANLY MEN unless they are 'road warriors' and severely funk up public transit.

I like when they are honked at and they flip people off without realizing that it's for their own good.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Bah.

Originally Posted by Arainach

They have just as much rights to all roads except the freeway system as any motor vehicle.

A biker who takes up the entire road and swerves constantly causing panic in following traffic, is a problem. It is also dangerous.

A high school classmate of mine's mother was killed while riding a bike IN THE ROAD. She was hit by a car and died instantly. Hmmm, I think I have a theory as how to avoid this... and I think you already know where I am going with this. How many bike fatalities do you hear about when the biker was on the sidewalk?

Originally Posted by Arainach

In most cities they are prohibited from the sidewalk.

I wasn't aware of this but this certainly isn't the norm where I live. Many bikers feel it's a good idea to be on main roads when back roads would be just as efficient for getting around. In regards to cities in which it is legal, bikers can and should use the sidewalk if at all possible, especially when there is no one on the sidewalk and the road is full of very dangerous moving machinery.

Originally Posted by Arainach

When you swerve over or flip off a biker, you're not sending a message, you're just being an asshole.

You misunderstand. I said that bikers often flip other people off who are only trying to keep them alive by honking. Try reading a little harder next time before jumping to conclusions.

I have neither said that I have swerved nor flipped off a biker...I just said I would like to. There is a difference between the two. Again, thanks for jumping to the conclusion that I am out to get ALL bikers.

Originally Posted by Arainach

Learn to deal with other people; you're not the most important person in the world.

Wow. Thanks. I like how you are making this about me. I am far from the only person on this world. I'd say you aren't handling my comments against bikers very well. Are you a biker?

It's not like I've said all bikers are terrible people, just those that cause problems when it's avoidable. Next time I advise you to take my commentary with a grain of salt.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

If anything, this is more about bikers taking 'advantage' of motorists just so they can enjoy the pleasure of a nice, even riding experience, even if it hinders the flow of traffic and causes the irritation of car drivers everywhere.

A 2 to 4 ton vehicle is capable of much destruction and cyclists many times aren't aware of that fact and are oblivious to weaving in and out of lanes which were made primarily for motorized vehicles to traverse.
A biker doesn't have as much a capability for causing bodily harm. Of course, the responsibility and the possibility for destruction lies primarily with car owners. This is where the aggravation stems from, in my eyes.

Main roads were primarily made for transportation of motor vehicles, so why should a biker be allowed to hold dominion? The lane system was made to accomodate a single car, truck, etc per lane.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

I see why you are defensive Arainach. It makes sense. You and I are separated by a great divide...not really though. You probably use your bike pretty religiously. To get to work and what not? I like cycling and respect that cars should have the right of way on the basis that they SHOULD be respected because of the capacity for mangling. It's as simple as that.

Originally Posted by Arainach

Yes.

Actually, that explains a lot.

Originally Posted by Arainach

Civil mode off. HOW FUCKING STUPID ARE YOU.

Well, not quite dumb enough to bring up the point that all roads in all regions were built under the same circumstances and remain unchanged. That is faulty thinking right there, bro.

Let me ask you another question...Do you live on the East Coast, where roads have largely remained unchanged since the times of horse and carriage? If so, then our circumstances are quite different and reasoning directly correlated with individual experience.

(Whatever your answer, implying that this gives bikers the right to weave and bob on the side of the road, is pretty dumb.)

I live in Overland Park, Kansas and I would be silly not to include the little fact that the roads that I drive on daily were made primarily for cars and motor vehicles. NOT for BICYCLES and certainly not horse-drawn carriage.

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Bikers are fully aware of how much damage cars can do;

Then why do half of them drive like they are inebbriated?

Look, I am not saying that car drivers are better than cyclists, I just find it curious that you look at this as 'Us vs. Them'.

Again, I believe that many cyclists are aware of what is going on around them, but I've seen enough instances where the cyclists rode around with a sense of reckless bravado that it makes me uneasy when I am driving.

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Originally Posted by Arainach

Weaving and bobbing is dumb whether you do it on a bike or in a car.

...I am well aware of this. Did I mention anything to the contrary?

Originally Posted by Arainach

Or because they've avoiding other obstacles such as mailboxes and cars next to them while simply trying not to die.

I find that a car is a bit more hazardous than a mailbox. That's just me but perhaps it's just my sense of bias and hatred of all cyclists chiming in...

Personally, I'd take my chances with the mailbox.

I was speaking idiomatically.