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On the contrary - I do. Just in the same way someone like yourself who took something and then dropped out.
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I've taken 3 martial arts for an approximate 10 year span. How do you compare 3 years of training to 10, might I ask? Thats like me saying that my opinion of worthless Star Wars trivia is more valid than your own.
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In other words, you have no right or reason to say what you have here about what I posted, considering you're in the same boat as I am.
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Again, you are mistaken. I have not dropped out. Martial arts is a continual process that doesn't necessarily END when one stops taking classes. Learning comes in different forms and IS a discipline. You are clearly missing that part of the equation.
Training doesn't end just because you don't don a gi and strike poses in front of a mirror. I have no doubt that this is what Karate means to you. Paying a fee and getting a belt...is not what karate is about.
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Attempting to invalidate my post is simply invalidating your own criticism.
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Far from it. You have a thick skull and though you may claim to be the gamingforce resident expert on everything, I again would disagree. Relative inexperience in a given field, in this case Karate, does not equal consummate understanding and the right to reign down torrents of criticism, though feel free to disagree.
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I'm not talking about places that teach you throws from other art forms,
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I am glad that you've changed your footing here. Obviously your statements weren't all that impressive to begin with if only now you are letting me in on what you
really meant...
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I'm talking about if you get into a bout at a tournament - is simply a sport.
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No shit? And here I was thinking you were making a blanket statement describing aspects of karate as worthless...
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It has very little function and every other martial art I've seen and have tried overwhelms it very easily.
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What other martial arts have you seen? Not that it matters...
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Upper and lower blocks, front kicks, punches, backfists, ankle sweeps, forward throws - its the most rudimentary material possible.
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Oh I guess rudimentary principles are completely worthless, then? Hrrm?
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They don't teach you to use your elbows, forehead, knees (except for blocking) or how to twist-lock people's wrists.
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Karate doesn't teach people how to break bones and inflict pain until the student has proven that they are trustworthy to handle the information with responsibility. All of my sensei's have been the same in that regard. If you expected differently, perhaps you should've taken greco roman wrestling instead.
From my experience, Karate teachers don't teach beginners how to utilize the body as a weapon. Most martial arts are the exact same. The first structure of the class involves learning Katta and form. The secondary structure of the class teaches the student how to give movement and impact to that sense of form.
In fact, the black belt is often mistakenly considered to be the "ending point" for understanding and mastering Karate...this is simply not true. If anything, the most intense and concentrated philosophies begin after one has achieved the black belt.
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Theres no submission moves, theres no arm locks, theres no gouging.
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Gouging? LOL, are you serious? Of course Karate doesn't teach eye gouging, what were you expecting. Karate IS NOT wrestling.
Aikido and Shotokan teaches submission... Aikido also shares many familiar roots with basic forms of Karate.
You are making some pretty interesting comments here with belie any real cumulative sense of experience.
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Someone in a real fight would last all of five seconds longer than the average joe because Karate is based on sport rules. You can't make contact with certain body parts, you can't make contact with the face.
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That is up to the discretion of the martial artist.
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Krav Maga, on the other hand, they teach you how to break someone's arm in two moves. Kali teaches you armed and unarmed combat at the same time (all the moves are related). They teach you how to disarm or how to take on several opponents at once.
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While I somewhat agree with you, we aren't speaking about which one form is more valid than the other. That isn't where this argument stems from. This argument stems from your belief that Karate is worthless as a means for self defense.
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The difference between the two is gigantic.
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Again, see above.
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What you intended to say and what you wrote are obviously not the same - since people other than myself got that impression. Way to stick your foot in your mouth.
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All the forms you mentioned have things in common with Karate - namely that they're all open-handed. However, thats as far as they go - much in the same way how the sport of boxing is different from someone who has gotten in a street fight. (I haven't, thank god - but the difference is obvious)
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What? Look, the training that a boxer receives will also help them to defend themselves in a real fight. You can't discredit the merit of a martial art on account that one hasn't been able to try its validity in a real fight. Experience means everything in the world, but that doesn't mean that Karate training is worthless. If one puts the teachings to applied use, there is a chance it will reward them for their diligence with allowing them to keep all their teeth intact by deflecting a blow with the pisiform, which might also break the hand of the assailant.
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Yea right, volcananus.
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But you called me out that I should have hit Amara.
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No I didn't. Nice try at misinformation to try to make me look off base. Luckily it doesn't really mean much. You know damn well where I am coming from. You threatened someone over the internet and I brought up the point that just because you threaten someone, does not mean that you are a comprehensive source of information on the martial arts.
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For someone who supposedly took several forms of martial arts for a decade, you know absolutely nothing about the restraint they teach you about it.
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Is that right? lol This doesn't necessitate anything less than a cheap laugh.
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Not to mention, most people who take up any style of self-defense never mention it; boasting about such things will only get your ass-kicked by someone bigger and faster than you - or someone with a gun, bottle, etc.
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I like how you have this argument which stems from a complete and likely intentional misconception to try to strengthen the bonds of otherwise weak and inexperienced points. Its not going to work because I know what you are doing.
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Then why did you just bring it up? Oh, wait, you have a history of trolling. Thats right.
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Sadly to say, you are again trying to increase your popularity and argument artificially.
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Oh god. Did you get that from the Manga Canon thread in the Sewers? Thats some ace funny bullshit there.
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What?
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You've made contradiction into an art form much like how Andy Warhol made a soup can into art.
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I haven't. Don't act so great you foolish man. You discount the validity of an artform without truly experiencing it to try to inflate your sense of self worth. This is kind of a recurring theme with you, isn't it?
I mean, if in fact we can get other people to think we are exceptional through baseless commentary, perhaps it will make the same true in
our own minds as well...
Keep that in mind.
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Remember the original post that I had made was about the use of karate as a form of self-defense, and not as a form of exercise. Sadly, this post was deleted by whomever on staff for reasons unknown.
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Did you delete your own post and blame it on a mod? HA! Go figure.
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