An intolerant people named Québec

Despite my vivid hatred towards Pierre Trudeau (no one has contributed more to the division of this country), I have to conceed one thing to him: nationalism leads to intolerance.

And Québec is an intolerant society (despites "ours" electing a cokehead who used public funds to satisfy his vice). I had the most vivid proof last week. The two following pictures show what left-wing hippies do to freedom of speech. The one with 2 guys in it show posters of Mario Dumont, head of a centre-right provincial party, who will give a conference at Université Laval on Wednesday. The other one is the legend under the posters: «à saccager» (to be destroyed). When a member of our group asked why this was there, one of the hippies (the long haired one on the picture) aswered quote: "We are just taking out your posters so we can put ours". Stupid fuck...

This intolerance goes along other stupid things. In 2004, the major Quebec City radio station was closed down because of tis content (but it managed to survive). Among those who were happy about it: sovereignists, labour unionists, hippies... All of whom CHOI (the radio station) were denouncing for their behaviours. A PQ MNA from Quebec City clearly said it: had CHOI been for separation, we would have supported it!

Quebec, a tolerant society? I think not!

Jam it back in, in the dark.

And that's one of the problems: those same intolerant people want to separate from canada!

As for people caring: this intolerance can be felt by any non french speaking person outside Québec ( I have clearly seen it). Maybe other canadians/quebecers could talk about it to prove/disprove me

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Chibi Neko

I find that Québec is a lot like other places in the country, some people are intolerant and some are not, however I have had a few ‘interesting’ encounters there. I can speak enough French to get me around, but people can hear my accent, and know that I am a English speaker and give me dirty looks, actually… come to think of it, they where from teenagers, adults smile when they heard me. The leader of the Bloc party Gilles Duceppe does not help, he behaves that Québec is the only province that matters in the country, and does not want to work together to make things right. He does not get it that Canadians really care about the province.

I know all too much about it. I was laughing at anglos' accent during katimavik. When they made me realise it, i stopped immediatly. When we were in st-jean, they were looked down upon and treated like shit (literally). I think I now understand why so few English speakers who know French don't speak the language despite their knowing it. You guys don't make fun of our mistakes:ashamed:

As for Gilles Duceppe: the only thing he "probably" like about Canada is that it pays his wage

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Québec voted not once... but TWICE to stay with Canada, and Gilles wants to have another referendum on a issue that has already been resolved MULTIPLE times! I think Gilles Duceppe needs to start getting the idea that he is a Canadian.

Since Quebecers were "stupid" enough to fall for Canada's love in, then they need to vote again :lolsign:

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The thing I dont get is that this guy is talking about people being intolerant when he's being the most intolerant person around

If you'd spend one week (or even one day) in the Social Sciences building at Université LAval, then you'd probably agree with my point

But your stating it proves that i'm not considering myself more catholic than the pope

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

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It's not because you stumbled upon two assholes who spoke French that you must categorize everyone of us

well... considering that we ahve more sacred cows than India, and that too many I have spoken/read about are awfully closed-minded:juggler: (hence my name)

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forced all immigrant children to be educated in french-language schools (even if they come from an English speaking country!)

Bill 22 clarified this. Unfortunately, there have been abuses, apparently...

As for the advertisement: if protecting a language means only advertising into it, it's not worth much...

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Originally Posted by loyalist

Good luck at meeting Clarity Act standards with that kind of attitude.

you don't SAY. I never thought I would approve Stéphane Dion:lolsign:

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While I don't particularly like Bill 101 because it FORCES people to use a language that they may otherwise not want to use, the law does make sense

Bill 22 (the previous language bill) made French the official language of the porvince (while English remained a "national language") and blocked English schools to those who didn't have "sufficient knowledge" of the language (it logically exlcuded born English speakers). Apparently, people abused it...
Also, in the 70s (I read it in a Kenneth Mcdonald book, if i'm not mistaken), Ontario clearly said that it was, first and foremost, an English speaking province. Nobody seemed to have protested.
Finally, both Canadian unity commission (Laurendeau-Dunton and Pépin-Robarts) recommended that French be portected in Quebec while (official language) minorities have guaranteed rights. Thanks to our national asshole (Trudeau), these recommendations have been, er, deformed (?)

And besides, there are Bill 101 ewverywhere (i read it in a newspaper long ago; maybe people from these places can concur)
- In italian swiss cantons, there are restrictions on German
- Mexican companies are stongly encouraged to adopt spanish names
- I believe Germany has restrictions about English, too

However, I must admit that the original bill 101 was far too restrictive and epople are getting overly paranoid about the state of the language. Hell, still over 80% of the people in the province speak the language at home.
Should we separate (I hope not), I fear that bigotry will become even more widespread

I was speaking idiomatically.

true, learning English is imperative to francophones. However, if immigrants only learn English, they are putting themselves appart from the rest of the province. Yes, the language of the majoirty on the continent is English; nevertheless, they ought to learn french too if they want to live in quebec.

I think it's just a matter of respect; when I go elsewhere in canada, i speak English; when ROC comes here, they should speak french

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by loyalist

The federa; government requires all of its employees and military offciers to be blingual in order to accomodate the French minority, however, Quebec has no such accomdation for the English minority.

Hum, I have lived in "canada" for 6 months; i never was able to be served in French at Canada Posts.

And this bilingualism was only a façade created by his assholness to make french quebecers believe they could be served in french coast to coast. True, services in English in Quebec might not be perfect... but at least they have never been abolished

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A rudimentary undertsanding is a good idea - I'm all for learning French. I just think that things ought to be equal for the English minority in Quebec as they are on the federal level for the French minority. English instruction in French schools, for exmaple,is far below the level of French instruction in English schools.

If I look at my canadian friends, their french teaching is as sucky as our english teaching. According to the preceding generation, classes were much harder

FELIPE NO

Excuse me? did you look at my name/sig? then you would know i'm not separatist. Besides, most politicians from this province (provincially wise) consider quebec to be distinct

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Also, I'm not aware that having the option to deal with government issues in English/French means that they must have a person of each language available on hand at all times

In theory, yes; so did trudeau want wrt federal institutions

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Did you go to a real post office

yes, with the postal boxes and stuff

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?