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[DS] Etrian Odyssey II: Heroes of Lagaard
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Old Mar 28, 2008, 09:20 PM Local time: Mar 28, 2008, 08:20 PM #1 of 191
I guess I should get back to working on those maps then...

So many FOEs.

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Old Jun 16, 2008, 06:41 AM Local time: Jun 16, 2008, 05:41 AM #2 of 191
You have an opportunity to get one of two starting items based on your progress in the first game. If you beat the main quest (Up to 25F) you get the Town Medal, which gives +10 HP/TP and +1 to all stats. If you cleared the entire labyrinth (all 30 floors) you get the Crown, which gives +10 HP/TP and +3 to all stats.

I only got to 29F on my EO1 file, so I got the medal.
You could still just use my code...........................

To get the Crown in EO1, you actually have to complete the Monstrous Codex and Item Compendium (which includes clearing all 30 floors). Not sure if this is the case for getting it in EO2, but I imagine it is.
Yes, your Etrian Odyssey file's password must have acknowledged that you obtained the Town Crown, otherwise you will end up getting the Town Medal when you attempt to import the data at the start of the game.

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Old Jun 16, 2008, 01:34 PM Local time: Jun 16, 2008, 12:34 PM #3 of 191
The deal was that Gamestop would get the game on June 11th and sell it before anyone else (Although most stores did not receive it until June 13th, some still have not gotten it yet).

The rest of the world had to wait until June 17th.

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Old Jun 17, 2008, 08:47 AM Local time: Jun 17, 2008, 07:47 AM #4 of 191
Taco gets my party killed so many times.

Me -> War Magus (female portrait that looks like she's going "ohohohohohohohohoho~")
Taco (Cinnamon) -> Protector (blonde female portrait)
Taiga -> Ronin (First male protrait)

Saka -> Gunner (Jack Frost portrait)
Karistar -> Hexer (the creepy o_o female portrait)

y u kill me taco ;_;

Spoiler:
Also the Town Crown is +15HP/TP with +2 All Stats


Bugfixes are delicious. There are classes actually worth playing now!

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Old Jun 17, 2008, 09:08 AM Local time: Jun 17, 2008, 08:08 AM #5 of 191
Lacerta, Taco almost has the same party as you do.

Just that instead of Ronin it's a Landsknecht.

However, I also have a similar set up as to your party, but I want to replace one with the Pet class.
Yes, we designed it in that way.

Our characters are named the same, and even use the same portraits, with one exception. Maybe two.

He still gets me killed all the time. Do your job taco >:(

EDIT: Just because I thought this was funny:

Spoiler:
As you walk, you come across an open area with colorful flowers. Their sweet scent beckons...

Their petals sway in the breeze as the aroma grows stronger...

You wonder if it would be so bad to take a brief rest here amidst the fragrant blossoms.

Rest for a while? (YES//NO)

You decide to stretch out and rest amongs the sweet-smelling blossoms...

But your experience as members of RTFO gives you an uneasy feeling about this...

And indeed, it isn't long until other forest denizens are drawn to the sweet pollen!

As you turn around, you spot a pack of butterflies that were drawn to the flowers's pollen.

Worse, these are no ordinary butterflies--it's a swarm of dangerous Venomflies!

They're almost upon you!
Draw your weapons and fight!


I was speaking idiomatically.

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Old Jun 17, 2008, 10:03 PM Local time: Jun 17, 2008, 09:03 PM #6 of 191
I just put my War Magus in the front for a 3-2 because the War Magus' stats are for a Frontline fighter, that happens to have the ability to heal.

Although really you shouldn't bother putting anyone with that kind of job in the front lines unless you have a provoker........

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Old Jun 18, 2008, 07:22 AM Local time: Jun 18, 2008, 06:22 AM #7 of 191
I feel like digging out my old party that 98% completed the JP version for me (insert jp names because I'm lazy to use the american ones):

Taco (Paladin)
Juan (Swordsman)
--------------------------------
Saka (Gunner)
Saka (Bard) [Yes, there are two Sakas]
Blah (Medic)

I might just keep their same builds too..............

Although if you intend to get anywhere in the game you will eventually need to make one of every class (including Beast) since certain areas require that class to unlock an area.

Most of it is post-game stuff though, leading to nice items, or part of a quest.

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Old Jun 18, 2008, 10:16 AM Local time: Jun 18, 2008, 09:16 AM #8 of 191
They're Ragelope 2.0. If you thought the damage from the ones in the first game was rough, this new version has an added bonus of status effects!
They also got rid of their weakness to Volt or whatever it was. Seems Fire is the new one now.

Ragelope 2.5 is worse lol =[

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Old Jun 18, 2008, 06:06 PM Local time: Jun 18, 2008, 05:06 PM #9 of 191
En Garde is best left @ Lv 1
20% activation chance.

Maxing it out only increases it to 29%

Provoke has 100% "gonna fuk u up" chance when maxed out. The key to remember is that enemy targets are determined the instant you select the last action for your party so it will only activate on Turn 2.

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Old Jun 18, 2008, 07:14 PM Local time: Jun 18, 2008, 06:14 PM #10 of 191
Atlus works in mysterious ways.

Take a look at their HP Up and TP Up tables:

Code:
Skill Lv 	 1 	 2 	 3  	 4  	 5 	 6 	 7        8 	  9 	 10 
HP % increase 	1.02 	1.04 	1.07 	1.10 	1.14 	1.21 	1.26 	1.31 	1.37 	1.45


Skill Lv 	 1 	 2 	 3  	 4  	 5 	 6 	 7        8 	  9 	 10
TP % increase 	1.02 	1.04 	1.08 	1.14 	1.22 	1.32 	1.44 	1.58 	1.74 	1.92


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Old Jun 18, 2008, 09:25 PM Local time: Jun 18, 2008, 08:25 PM #11 of 191
Where are you getting these stats, Lace? I wouldn't mind seeing the odds for an Aegis activation.
From my work in the Japanese version (Someone was also doing some work on it based on reading data inside but knowing how gamefaqs is I think the topics might have been deleted or put somewhere in the past life of the past).

Aegis is the exact same figures as En Garde, surprisingly o_o
It also only works once per battle, which is... weird. Might have been changed in the US version, but the flag for it in JP was just once per battle.

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Old Jun 19, 2008, 06:11 AM Local time: Jun 19, 2008, 05:11 AM #12 of 191
We still recommend HP Up 10 for no real reason. Having more HP never hurts, even if it's less than 50% more...

Just because of the changes to the battle system now, it's rare (unless it's a boss FOE using some hacked skill) to suffer the instant-kill damages from before (actually, instant kills are pretty much gone, with few exceptions).

Also if you do decide to grab a Protector, you want your Anti-blah skills to be Lv 10. They have penalty checks now. Lv 7 (Immunity) has -30% per success, so the second person only has a 70% chance to get guarded by the element, and the third person is just fucked. If they managed to guard then the fourth and fifth are doomed =D

Lv 10 has 0% penalty, so the whole gang has 100% to block element.

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Old Jun 19, 2008, 06:35 AM Local time: Jun 19, 2008, 05:35 AM #13 of 191
Pretty much all of the Protector skills have them, as well.

Some are worse than others, but more convenient for trying to protect two critical members.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Jun 19, 2008, 03:44 PM Local time: Jun 19, 2008, 02:44 PM #14 of 191
Instead of getting all the Anti stuff to lev 10, wouldn't it be best to get Tec and Shields to 10 and learn Anti-all? The Tec to 10 seems like a wasted movement, but it's seems more convenient. Or is the chance of stopping the spells quite low?
Anti-All has a -28% penalty per success. It'll protect one or two people at the most on average.

EDIT: Noticed a typo that I am too lazy to go correct. Immunity from Elements is @ Lv 8 w/ -20%

Not as bad but still kind of rough for person 4 and 5.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

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Old Jun 19, 2008, 09:16 PM Local time: Jun 19, 2008, 08:16 PM #15 of 191
They're okay, their %s aren't super high, but they aren't super low considering what they do.

If anything, I'd probably take Counter...

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Old Jun 19, 2008, 11:10 PM Local time: Jun 19, 2008, 10:10 PM #16 of 191
So Atlus addresses a certain bug some people might have.

I guess it's a start. There are other bugs in the game that they have not addressed, but I'll wait and see if they comment on them.

One of the more important bugs though they have mentioned was impossible to fix, although really you should be finishing the things that cause the bug BEFORE you start it, or you will experience hell.

I am referring to the quests that involve "have x class be level y". The game's coding is so fucked up for these quests that not even Atlus JP knew how to fix the horror that it was.

Basically, the code SHOULD only check the status of the party when you pop into town. What it currently does (and has done since JP) is check it every step. Eventually this can lead to major lag and cause some glitches in the game that might harm the data.

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Old Jun 19, 2008, 11:40 PM Local time: Jun 19, 2008, 10:40 PM #17 of 191
It's actually a regular encounter that will bother you later on in the 1st stratum like what.

x_o

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Old Jun 20, 2008, 12:05 AM Local time: Jun 19, 2008, 11:05 PM #18 of 191
GameFAQs did not believe me (mostly because 99% of the people there are idiots and weren't around when I was doing random reports from the Japanese version) but I'll say it here because ur a gech.

FOEs are harder than anything the game can throw at you. Bosses have lost their rank as the number one threat (they are significantly weak compared to EO1, but then again EO1 also had an entirely different combat system and some fail coding, and was designed to force you to use the near invincible combo).

That said though, there are items and skills that are built around FOE manipulation, either dragging it to you or stopping it from moving for a few steps. You will have to use them to get around the maps now.

Or you can just fight wave after wave of rainbow fuzzballs that give no EXP and drop shit items.

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Old Jun 20, 2008, 12:13 AM Local time: Jun 19, 2008, 11:13 PM #19 of 191
Crawling and taking it up the arse is the only way to dungeon crawl........

also idk :E

ps if you try you can sort of attempt to bulldoze your way through them. It will probably take a while. Kill sum fuzzies, gb2town, nap (or sleep if you ended up taking til 6PM), stock up, go kill moar fuzzies, gb2town, sleep, repeat.

Eventually all the fuzzies will be gone and you can hit 3F >=0~~~~

At least the "checkpoint" system makes it less tedious. Also shortcuts make it less horrible!

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Old Jun 21, 2008, 08:13 AM Local time: Jun 21, 2008, 07:13 AM #20 of 191
You don't need to step on every tile, so just scan the area with your eyes and fill in the spaces that way. The only other thing (besides running away, of course) would be to stay out of their sight and be sneaky.
You do if you want to have it count as being "mapped"

It's a requirement for a few quests/missions. Kind of crappy, but yeah. The game doesn't register filling it in with the stylus as you actually mapping it out.

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Old Jun 21, 2008, 10:16 AM Local time: Jun 21, 2008, 09:16 AM #21 of 191
Ah, shit.

It should only be for specific floors (...right?), so I'll just continue along until they ask me to really map it.
Yeah, it's specific to a floor. There aren't any "MAP THIS ENTIRE STRATUM NOW" type of things.

In case anyone was having second doubts about the all powerful landsausage, those Chaser skills (Blazer, Freezer, Shocker) are capable of chasing multiple times. So max them out. Do it. Now.

Chasing is where they go into a "stance" for the turn, and any attack of the element they are chasing causes them to follow up immediately with an elemental attack of the same element and type (type being single target or area). The perfect chasing setup will net you 8 elemental attacks in one turn. Somewhat good if you can exploit a weakness.

If not, just drop 2 hits for a Hexer who has Dampen. It removes resistances. They can even add 2 hits themselves if they manage to imbue their weapon with an element (or it already has one), or they use one of the battle items like the Jars.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Jun 21, 2008, 09:20 PM Local time: Jun 21, 2008, 08:20 PM #22 of 191


Lv 1 Double Attack is 5%

Not sure on Counter, but maxed out it should be maybe 1/4 chance...

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Old Jun 21, 2008, 11:40 PM Local time: Jun 21, 2008, 10:40 PM #23 of 191
The "easiest" way I guess is either stock up on those anti-battle items or get a maxed out Stalker on Survivalist.

0% encounters for 250 steps, which is maybe 8 hours?

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Old Jun 25, 2008, 12:05 PM Local time: Jun 25, 2008, 11:05 AM #24 of 191
If you were interested in the story of EO1, someone has summed it up on GameFAQs.

It is not linked to EO2 in any manner though, so it does not matter.

Oddly enough, that summary of EO1 is pretty much what you get hit with in the last stretch of the game.

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