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[PS2] Odin Sphere - Hot sex from Atlus
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Old May 27, 2007, 01:40 PM Local time: May 27, 2007, 12:40 PM #1 of 240
I'm only on Valkyrie: Chapter 3, but I've already mastered Gwen's moves and the Item, Food and Alchemy systems are so broken once you figure out how they work. They probably will put off a lot of people because "what the fuck is this >=0" type of initial response and what have you, but if you take the time to dabble and experiment you can have some lol times and create some powerful stuff.

Hard mode feels like Normal mode now, except with half the phozons and I have to hit things a few more times before they drop dead.

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Old May 28, 2007, 03:16 AM Local time: May 28, 2007, 02:16 AM #2 of 240
I was hoping I would create a material(10) with something like... a food item and I'd expect something good, but sometimes I end up with just a material(11) or even worse, a material(0)
You can only create with what you know.

Also it needs to be a Mandragora I believe, can't use anything else to get something.

Incase nobody has figured it out yet:

Phozon EXP = Chapter x 10. So if you are on chapter one you will get 10 EXP per Phozon. Spirit Stone increases this value by 10%. If you're going to Phozon Grind the easiest way is to find a stage with two minibosses (not that hard when you get to the end of any person's story). Kill, Absorb (w/ Spirit Stone), get your Psypher Gauge to the maximum value it can go (you will probably have to kill many more things for that), Phozon Release -> Absorb -> Phozon Release -> Absorb. Repeat until you run out of Phozons entirely. Then leave the place and do it all over again.

I guess I should add that when you revisit a stage it is based on the chapter it was. So even if you are on Epilogue if you go to a place that was like Chapter 2 or 3, you will only get 20 or 30 EXP at that stage. That's because that area is designated as a Chapter.

I'm only on The Pooka Prince, Chapter 3, but I've already found an easy way to make Material (90):

M0 + Mulberry = M5 (Fruit has a value of 5. 0+5 = 5)
M5 + Any seed = M6 (Seeds have a value of 1. 5+1 = 6)
M0 + 3 Mulberries = M15 (5+5+5 = 15)
M6 + M15 = M90. (They multiply. 6 * 15 = 90)
M90 + Milk = Yogurt (because Yogurt is created with an even value, and the 0 in 90 is an even value since Alchemy only pays attention to the final digit).

Creating the Yogurt with an M90 will probably release like 30 or so Phozons. Considering how easy it is to obtain Mulberries and Milk, you can use this to get some cheap Phozons. Also having yogurt is never a bad thing, you get better exp from food you eat in battle and it's required in some of the greatest recipes in the game. (greatest as in +MAX HP wise for ease of creation, may not be the best HP EXP wise).

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Old May 30, 2007, 01:56 AM Local time: May 30, 2007, 12:56 AM #3 of 240
I have completed Valkyrie (a second time, wanted to see something), The Pooka Prince, Fairy Land, The Black Sword, and I am now on Fate.

Everything in the story is starting to become crystal clear now. I have no complaints with anything, as everything I was bothered by or questioned was answered later on. The way the story is set up is rather interesting to say the least.

Anyone who thought Fairy Land Chapter 4 Act 5 was annoying, will completely hate The Black Sword Chapter 6 Act 5.

What to not look forward to:
Another of the Three Wise Men (Skuldi), two or three Revenants (from Winterhorn), ooze slimes, and of course eyeballs.


Velvet is so cheap, like Mercedes. Unfortunately being so cheap comes with a drawback... which is easily countered through the Alchemy system. Well infact everything is countered by the Alchemy system =P

I never mentioned it before but I am slightly bothered yet humored at the fact that sheep grow from seeds you plant in the ground. Along with little chicks hatching from a normal looking egg turning into giant mutated chickens that poop eggs.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old May 30, 2007, 04:07 PM Local time: May 30, 2007, 03:07 PM #4 of 240
Due to story related business, all of the characters have at least two stages out of the seven in their story that they are not allowed to return to. Unfortunately you do not really know what stages these are until you are finished with them on that character.

If you find yourself having trouble in a stage you can always use the Home feature to return to base and then play the stage over again. The game does not penalize you for doing so, and it can only make you stronger since you get to restart with everything you had before you left the map (Psypher levels, Psypher gauge, HP levels, items, money).

I know that Gwendolyn and Cornelius have a block ability, but really I wouldn't get too used to it. They are the only characters that can actually block and while it is a nice feature, you are better off dodging the attack (or reflecting it back if it is possible).

In Chapter 2 of Gwendolyn's story you should find a scroll containing the formula for Alchemy Mix P (Painkiller). Like Qwarky mentioned, painkillers are really good. So many boss battles in the game become much less stressful when you aren't getting knocked on your ass in one hit. Carroteers and Cubsbanes might be rare in that area, but they are worth using to create painkillers. Just about every item that is created through Alchemy works in threes, so there is no real need to go overboard with item making.

Also if you are really having trouble: For that battle (and others similar to it), plant a Rosemile. They will stop to absorb the Phozons into their Psypher. You can use the opportunity to get free hits in or recover.

As far as equipment is concerned. Aside from the necessary charms to prevent certain things (such as Fireproof Charm to prevent the constant burn of the volcano and flame status), a Power Stone and Spirit Stone should be all you really need. The +%ATK Bangles are really nice later on though. Especially if you combine them with Painkiller and Unlimited Power (which isn't unlimited, your POW is just recovering at an absurd rate)

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Old May 31, 2007, 02:57 AM Local time: May 31, 2007, 01:57 AM #5 of 240
I have beaten Fate, and unlocked:

Book Title + Info:
Armageddon

This is the final stretch of the game, basically the prophecies begin to happen and the Armageddon is starting. TONS of tragedies//plot and probably one of the most epic setups for the final battles ever. Before you open the book it states that you will have to use all five characters once, and their items and stats are based on what you left them at when you beat their story. So yeah, if you finished with 0 Psypher, you're starting the final battle with 0 Psypher. The game actually recommends that you replay and stock up, big time.


I thought Black Sword Act 6 Chapter 5 was bad, but that is nothing compared to Fate Chapter 6 Act 5.

Yet again, what not to look forward to:

Yet another of the Three Wise Men (Beldor) + Belial. Yes, two bosses, at once.

Beldor can poop out eyeballs and slimes of course like all the other mages, and Belial pretty much exists to ruin your life.


As of right now I am listening to the advice from the sixth book and I'm grinding everyone to at least some decent Psypher and HP levels, well HP levels don't really matter as much as the HP does. Also taking the time to give everyone a total of 6 large bags, a entire row of Elixirs (I tried the first fight for fun, Healing Tonics will not suffice), an entire row of Painkillers, some Unlimited Power, and the proper equipments (Jupiter Bangle, Power Stone, Detox Charm, Fireproof Charm, Iceproof Charm, etc). I may dabble with Fire/Ice Spirits.

By this point you should have every single thing in the Text Archive unlocked. Some of the recipes will require you making the one above it multiple times until they come up with a variation.

I'm also going to just only bother with Yogurt Fruit Mousse. 3300 HP EXP and +24 HP. All you need is 1 Yogurt, 1 Egg, and 1 Mulberry, along with an Ariel Coin. 1 Egg can create endless eggs if you do it right, Yogurt you can just spend the cash for Milk then make it (or find a area that has Milk as a drop and farm it that way... but buying is usually faster), and if you can't find a Mulberry Seed to produce a Mulberry I don't even know what game you are playing.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old May 31, 2007, 08:47 PM Local time: May 31, 2007, 07:47 PM #6 of 240
Just finished the game with 100% completion. Got all four of the "endings", and unlocked the bonus scene reward for obtaining 100% completion.

I am very satisfied.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
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Old Jun 1, 2007, 06:04 AM Local time: Jun 1, 2007, 05:04 AM #7 of 240
Answer: Because her third jump goes through anything unharmed, her 4th hit in the regular combo (no directional) hits four times (twice front twice back), her aerial abilities are hacked, and her charged homing chain can almost reach the entire mini-map.

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Old Jun 2, 2007, 12:08 PM Local time: Jun 2, 2007, 11:08 AM #8 of 240
12 recipes require you to make a previous one multiple times.

Incase nobody wants to know?:

Pooka Kitchen:

03. Seafood Salad (Gwendolyn Chapter 5) -> 04. Fish & Fruit Salad
06. Salad (Gwendolyn Chapter 6) -> 07. Mandra Salad
09. Salmon Escabeche (Mercedes Chapter 6) -> 10. Muggle Escabeche
17. Cream Stew (Oswald Chapter 5) -> 18. Turny Cream Stew
21. Gnocchi (Oswald Chapter 1) -> 22. Tricolor Gnocchi
25. Omelet (Gwendolyn Chapter 4) -> 26. Cheese Omelet
28. Chicken Au Gratin (Mercedes Chapter 3) -> 29. Smothered Chicken

Cafe Rabbit:

05. Crepe (Cornelius Chapter 6) -> 06. Marmelade Crepe
07. Churro (Velvet Chapter 1) -> 08. Chocolate Churro
12. Cheesecake (Oswald Chapter 5) -> 13. Yogurt Cheesecake
20. Cremet d'Anjou (Velvet Chapter 2) -> 21. Yogurt Cremet d'Anjou
22. Yogurt Mousse (Cornelius Chapter 4) -> 23. Yogurt Fruit Mousse


Anything not in there is something you missed on other characters, should probably go inspect. If you did no variation unlocking by the time you reach Fate Chapter 6 Act 1 you should be missing only 12 recipes.

On the topic of Armageddon, some advice:

Mercedes has the hardest time with the last two bosses. This is because they REQUIRE double jumping. Sadly if you want all the scenes you will need to use her in one of these battles. I recommend the 4th one because it is easier to hack with Mercedes when you figure it out. You might want to bring a few Unlimited Powers, Painkillers are optional but if you do it right you shouldn't need any (doesn't hurt to be safe though). Once you actually get to the top and break the eye, it will start to fall. Simply fly into the air and follow it, and you should be able to safely land on the platform without falling to the bottom like some of the others. Then once the eye becomes vulnerable again you can wail on it as it comes to the top. If you do enough damage it will break just as it gets up and fall down again. Repeat.

For the 1st boss, you've already fought it once before, still just as annoying.

2nd boss, no real tricks from this thing here. It's just an endurance battle. When the heads go into the ground I tend to just ignore them and wait for them to return instead of hunting them down (it's more painful to hunt them down).

3rd boss, you've already fought it once before, annoying but not impossible.

4th boss, I tend to scale the right side and reach the peak and attack from there. Velvet can also land on the peak if not one hop away from it with the proper timing and positioning before using the chain swing.

5th boss, chutes and ladders! =o Really you're just climbing, it's doing everything it can to knock you down. If you are hit once you fall down and have to climb up again (how much you fall down seems to vary?). Sometimes the head will appear to attack you, you must beat the crap out of it immediately. It can either bite (which isn't too bad) or unleash the Armageddon upon you which is like instant kill even for the toughest of characters (although I'm sure if you grinded waaaay too much you could survive it). Some characters like have problems doing damage to it once they reach it, you need to flail on the crown because it put up a shield of sorts.

There are character specific scenes and generic scenes. The generic scenes only need to be fought with anyone who doesn't have a character specific one and then the entire roster has their generic specific scenes unlocked.

1st boss: Cornelius, Mercedes, and Velvet each have a special cutscene.
2nd boss: Cornelius and Oswald each have a special cutscene
3rd boss: Gwendolyn, Mercedes and Oswald have a special cutscene
4th boss: Velvet is the only one with a special cutscene
5th boss: Gwendolyn is the only one with a special cutscene

You can unlock them in any order you please.


Is it just me or does Odin Sphere feel like Wagner's Ring of the Nibelung except in a game form. Most of the things in the game seem like references to it. Some things don't match up though.

How ya doing, buddy?

Last edited by Lacerta; Jun 2, 2007 at 09:24 PM.
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Old Jun 3, 2007, 09:15 PM Local time: Jun 3, 2007, 08:15 PM #9 of 240
You can try using Piercing Shot (Mercedes), or Phozon Burst, or Mercedes' charged shot.

Some of those probably will not kill them in one hit, but it gets the job done.

You could also try Napalms and stuff too. I hear Blizzard is a really powerful Alchemy Mix.

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Old Oct 27, 2007, 05:18 PM Local time: Oct 27, 2007, 04:18 PM #10 of 240
How to kill Slimes:

Gwendolyn: Lucky whore never has to fight them.
Cornelius: Use items. Napalm, Ooze, Killer Cloud, etc.
Mercedes: Cheap charged h4x with the bow.
Oswald: Go into Shadow Form or just use items.
Velvet: Homing Attack with her chain.

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