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LordsSword
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Old Jan 22, 2007, 12:42 PM Local time: Jan 22, 2007, 11:42 AM #1 of 12
Costom made babies

I heard about this and my stomach turns at this.

General overview from different perspectives:
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/jan/07010905.html
http://www.slate.com/id/2157495/
http://www.bpnews.net/bpnews.asp?ID=24770

Here a brief story about some buyers:
http://www.medindia.net/news/view_ne...p?x=17589&cK=1

Made to order, even with defects:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16299656/

Perhaps my fear of this kind of future keeps me from embracing this sort of thing but movies like Blade Runner & Gattaca came to mind when I heard about this kind of eugenics http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics

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Old Jan 22, 2007, 06:42 PM Local time: Jan 22, 2007, 05:42 PM #2 of 12
Blade Runner is about robots and I don't think Gattaca really had an anti-Eugenics stance in the end, so I can't see how either of those films support your fears.
You need to check out Blade Runner again. The "Replicants" were a slave race of people not machines.

At the end of Gattaca the authors of the movie showed clips of historical figures that had abnormalities that aided in their personal greatness.
Such abnormalities would have been discriminated against in the movies eugenics story.
What makes me nervous is the basic enslavement of people. Buying and selling people. True they are not made to work fields like my ancestors but their worth is determined by their traits.
To me human worth can't have a price.

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Old Jan 23, 2007, 12:00 PM Local time: Jan 23, 2007, 11:00 AM #3 of 12
I'm not really against the idea of screening to prevent any potential children suffering from problems that would cause them to not be able to live their life to the full.
This is already done but suppose just for the sake of argument, the day comes if any undesired trait combination could be considered a hinderance to quality of life.
I assume that everybody wants their kids to have the best in life what guideline would you use to define what is best for people?

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Jan 24, 2007, 06:49 PM Local time: Jan 24, 2007, 05:49 PM #4 of 12
I'm not even prepared to entertain such a notion. That's such an improbable situation that I don't see the value to discussing it.
Its not improbable when it is happening now. The transactions are taking place and the company is still in business.

The vast majority of humans like to consider themselves to be moral creatures, as judged by whatever code pleases them. This fact would have to change in order for anything you suggest to become reality.
Abortion is the only current refrence I can use to counter your claim. Once upon a time it wasn't all that popular, now its big business in my neighboring state of Kansas and other parts of the U.S.
What changed is the overall philosophy of the culture about its view of kids and their relation to a perception of quality of life for individuals.
To me, this is just the next step.

If the tone of this response seems harsh, it is because I perceive that you already have your response prepared. Do you suppose that I've never heard these arguments before? I'm just not willing to admit that it's necessary that we should forego the use of any technological advancement which has the potential to be used in a bad way.
No, youre not harsh, you never were unless you get pushed just right. So, should this sort of thing be illegal or just regulated by the government?
I say ban it. One of these days somebody is gonna pay for a blond hair blue eyed kid and get a brown one by mistake. Then there comes the lawsuit for a refund....

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