What's with Britain and knife crime?

Choose your own Youtube adventure.

You're a young black man in London towne, faced with the choice of bringing a knife to show off your mates. If you're like me and do what I did the first time around the cops will stop you for no reason and stick you with 4 years for possesssion.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

The outcome is the same if you went to the fight unarmed.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Big Gay Chulo

And if you're carrying a knife in the street then you deserve to go to jail for a long fucking time anyway.

I don't believe people should be thrown in jail for hurting no one.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

What you believe isn't important, and the intent of somebody in possession can't be proven. What if your friend wants to borrow a knife?

Even if your courts are a joke it's pretty obvious that these propaganda campaigns are part of a concerted effort to force kids under suspicion for knife crime to accept bargains for admission of guilt.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Apparently you have to carry your tools in a bag or you're going to use them to fight.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Timberwolf8889

While I agree, the intent could be non-violent I think it's a bit naive to say that most people who are carrying large knives in their pants are doing it to "loan it to a friend"...I don't think that happens, ever.

It can happen. Besides that point, your obsession with large knives is fairly suspect. Does a one inch blade like the one in the youtube campaign constitute a large knife to you?

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If someone was perpetrating massive white collar crime near my location, I wouldn't object to the cops searching me because I'm a white guy in a suit before they picked up the scruffy looking wideboys wearing hoodies over the road because that's a fucking sensible way to catch the criminal.

Institutional racism. The "sensible way to catch the criminal."

It's real easy for you to be accepting of being profiled for white collar crime, nobody carries falsified tax records on their person.

"A quarterly report! He's got a quarterly report! I am putting you under arrest, I believe you've been involved in tax evasion."

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How does that logic apply to potential terrorists?

Well, it's a lot easier to prove conspiracy to commit mass murder or conspiracy to commit a destructive act for possessing a truck full of fertilizer and detonation devices than it is to prove conspiracy to murder for possession of a knife.

Of course, if you were simply in possession of a truck full of fertilizer then there shouldn't be much cause for suspicion.

Conspiracy cannot be proven by possession ipso facto. It also requires past history, clear evidence of a plan, political affiliations, published material, etc. And no, being a South London black is not sufficient evidence to prove conspiracy to murder.

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The video is designed to shock the sort of person stupid enough to carry a knife in the first place out of doing so because if they stab someone, they might get done for murder. That they need to spell this out is a rather sad enditement of the kind of kids we have in this country at the moment.

It's idiotic to assume that kids commit knife crime because they're stupid or don't understand that stabbing a person is wrong or will land them in jail. Only one of the situations in this campaign involved a stabbing, the vast majority of end games with the knife end in a possession charge.

What's stupid is that the government thinks that an ad campaign is going to tell kids what they already know and unravel the complicated system of social obligations and implications that people become trapped in. It's convenient that the guy lives happily ever after and the strung up knife pusher doesn't fuck him up later for being boyed off.

You can't just assume that people will do the proper thing because you tell them to. People engage in risky behavior all the time for good reasons.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

It really makes me wish we had macrawave kebabs

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