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[Movie] Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen
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Old Jun 24, 2009, 05:10 PM Local time: Jun 24, 2009, 05:10 PM 2 #1 of 81
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Transformers' Jive-Talking Robots Raise Race Issues
SANDY COHEN | June 24, 2009 12:57 PM EST | AP

LOS ANGELES — "Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen" introduces some 40 new mechanized characters of all shapes, sizes and even sexes _ but it's a pair of jive-talking 'bots that critics are singling out as more than just harmless comic relief.

Skids and Mudflap, twin robots disguised as compact Chevys, constantly brawl and bicker in rap-inspired street slang. They're forced to acknowledge that they can't read. One has a gold tooth.

As good guys, they fight alongside the Autobots and are intended to provide comic relief. But the traits they're ascribed raise the specter of stereotypes most notably seen when Jar Jar Binks, the clumsy, broken-English speaking alien from "Star Wars: Episode I _ The Phantom Menace," was criticized as a racial caricature.
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Old Jun 25, 2009, 07:19 AM Local time: Jun 25, 2009, 07:19 AM #2 of 81
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Looked like the US was army was kicking more ass than the autobots did in that final battle.
That's because Michael Bay thinks the US military is the coolest goddamn institution on the planet, and Transformers 2 in no subtle way implies that world peace would be just around the corner if the boys in green just had unlimited access to all the poor foreign mud countries. OORAH SEMPER FI

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President Obama willing to negotiate with Decepticons. Cybertron just smashed into the Freedom Tower!

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Old Jun 25, 2009, 03:42 PM Local time: Jun 25, 2009, 03:42 PM #3 of 81
The first transformers could be forgiven because it was inoffensive and dumb, but the new transformers is overtly racist, sexist, jingoistic, dumb, and outs President Obama for being a Decepticon sympathizer.

It is one of the worst films ever, and you're a dumbass for liking it.

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Old Jun 25, 2009, 03:46 PM Local time: Jun 25, 2009, 03:46 PM #4 of 81
Don't pay money.

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Old Jun 25, 2009, 04:10 PM Local time: Jun 25, 2009, 04:10 PM 1 #5 of 81
Haha, yeah, because I'm white that means that I should be okay with giant robots that stereotype blacks as dumb ghetto niggers.

You know what the last movie I watched and enjoyed was? Dragonball. It wasn't good particularly, but it had a plot and some good moments that were worth the price of admission.

It is not hard to make a decent movie. It's also fairly simple to make a bad movie that isn't sexist, racist, etc.,

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Jun 25, 2009, 04:15 PM Local time: Jun 25, 2009, 04:15 PM #6 of 81
What in the sam hell are you even talking about? The only thing I heard about Obama is that he was in a bunker in the middle of the country.

And even so...who the hell cares? Obama could have been a outed as a man that's actually a decepticon in desguise and I woudln't have given too shits. High standards or not, but if you start taking a movie about giant robots THIS SERIOUSLY then I feel sorry for you.
There is no point in identifying the president as Obama unless Bay wanted to make a statement about him, which he did by implying that Obama would be willing to negotiate with the Decepticons (terrorists).


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Even so, god forbid a movie based on toys woudln't have the same humor you would see in a Ren and Stimpy cartoon. Seriously Brady, was your inner child raped, beaten and then had its throat slit when you hit adult-hood? You take it as potty humor, or any humor that isn't UPRIGHT AND POLITICALLY CORRECT as the devil sometimes.
The movie has giant robots that constantly talk about pussy and bitches. What part of that is supposed to appeal to my inner child? I was fairly misogynistic back in High School, but that doesn't mean I want something to appeal to a me that was dumb as shit.

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Old Jun 25, 2009, 04:30 PM Local time: Jun 25, 2009, 04:30 PM 1 #7 of 81
Thing is, I don't openly look for anything that is sexist or racist. I mean look at the movie Friday. Stereotypes and racism abound in that movie, but does it make it alright because it starred a black man? Even then I didn't even look at the movie as racist, and I still don't to this day.
Friday was about surviving hood life and poking fun at the kind of characters that inhabit the community. It wasn't a fucking minstrel show. You are a dumbass.

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Old Jun 25, 2009, 04:37 PM Local time: Jun 25, 2009, 04:37 PM #8 of 81
Friday celebrated blacks and didn't use black culture as a comedic foil to be laughed at and ridiculed.

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Old Jun 25, 2009, 05:13 PM Local time: Jun 25, 2009, 05:13 PM #9 of 81
Bamboozled was a good movie. It's impossible for anybody to do a minstrel show with a point because Bamboozled already did it.

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Old Jun 26, 2009, 12:45 AM Local time: Jun 26, 2009, 12:45 AM #10 of 81
White man in blackface will never happen, let the dream die, brother.

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And yet — and here's the part where I really think ROTF approaches "art movie" status — the movie's id overload reaches such crazy levels that the fabric of reality itself starts to break down. Michael Bay has boasted about how every single shot in the movie has so much stuff going on in it, it would take your PC since the dawn of time to render one frame. After a few hours of this assault, you feel the chair melt and the floor of the movie theater becomes an angry mirror into your soul. Nothing is solid, nothing is real, everything Transforms.

The closest thing I can think of to this movie is the Wachowskis' Speed Racer, which had a similar kind of CG image overload, although it was only five hours long as opposed to ROTF's nine.

And around hour six of ROTF, something curious happens: the two components — male enhancement and pure id — start to clash, badly. Usually, in a summer movie, the two aspects go together like tits and ass: Jason Statham plays someone who faces the same insecurities as regular dudes, but he overcomes them, and in the process he blows up everything in the world. But creating that kind of fusion requires enslaving the id to the male enhancement, and that in turn means only going way over the top instead of crazy, stratospheric over the top. Michael Bay is not willing to settle for going way over the top, like other directors.

So you have a movie that tries to reassure men that they can actually be masters of their reality — but then turns around and says that actually, reality is not real. There's no such thing as the "real world," and the only thing that's left for men to dominate is a nebulous domain of blurred shapes, which occasionally blurt nonsensical swear-words and slang from ethnic groups that have never existed. If you're drowning in an Olympic swimming pool full of hot chewing gum fondue, do you still care if Megan Fox likes you?

So yes, ROTF approaches the sublime, and then just keeps rocketing. Next stop: total anarchy. In a sense, it's the first war movie ever to convey a real sense of the fog of war, the confusion that comes with battle. Somewhere around hour nine, you will understand why friendly fire happens in wartime.


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Old Jun 26, 2009, 01:41 PM Local time: Jun 26, 2009, 01:41 PM 1 #11 of 81
I saw it for $7. It... was worth $7, I guess.

I mean, it was better than the first, but that's not saying a whole lot. I could at least sort of tell which scrap heap was attacking which one when they went into slow-mo mode.

I kinda hope they don't make a third one, but I know that's asking too much. This thing's probably going to make a bajillion dollars. Sigh.
Well now that you've paid 7 bux of course they're going to make a third one.

On the bright side, though, Michael Bay isn't going to do it! He's tired of all the mean movie critics taking massive shits on his successful movies so he doesn't want to do explosions anymore.

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I'm guessing it would be a bad time to admit liking the movie for what it was worth. I honestly didn't care about anything but the robot battles.
The robot battles were shit.

The only thing you cared about is literally terrible.

Michael Bay is a horrible action director. Hot Fuzz was a better film than Bad Boyz could have ever hoped to be.

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Old Jun 26, 2009, 02:00 PM Local time: Jun 26, 2009, 02:00 PM 5 #12 of 81
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Old Jun 27, 2009, 09:26 AM Local time: Jun 27, 2009, 09:26 AM 1 #13 of 81
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FilmSchoolRejects: I heard that the gold tooth was Michael Bay’s idea, but do you have any response to those who found The Twins offensive?

Orci: Number one, we sympathize. Yes, the gold tooth was not in the script, that’s true.

Kurtzman: It’s really hard for us to sit here and try to justify it. I think that would be very foolish, and if someone wants to be offended by it, it’s their right. We were very surprised when we saw it, too, and it’s a choice that was made. If anything, it just shows you that we don’t control every aspect of the movie.

FilmSchoolRejects: Were you offended by them?

Kurtzman: I wasn’t thrilled. I certainly wasn’t thrilled.

Orci: Yeah, same reaction. I’m not easily offended, but when I saw it, I thought, ‘Someone’s gonna write about that.’”
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Old Jun 27, 2009, 09:42 PM Local time: Jun 27, 2009, 09:42 PM #14 of 81
The laughter you experienced was a result of your cognitive dissonance, fyi.

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Old Jun 28, 2009, 09:33 PM Local time: Jun 28, 2009, 09:33 PM 1 #15 of 81
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Old Jun 29, 2009, 12:36 AM Local time: Jun 29, 2009, 12:36 AM 1 #16 of 81
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Old Jun 29, 2009, 11:46 AM Local time: Jun 29, 2009, 11:46 AM #17 of 81
I keep hearing that people are getting offended by the way those two funny robots acted.
I think that's fucking hilarious. Honestly people, their robots, not a race.


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One shouldn’t miss the extent to which TROFT is also an incredibly engagé political text, a searing indictment of Obama’s liberal fascist United States of America. After all, though the film doesn’t dwell on the point, one critical turn in the storyline comes when a heroic Major in the United States Army (or possibly Air Force) decides to disobey orders and mutiny against a civilian operative specifically sent by POTUS to take command of the operation. But what’s more, this is no rogue special forces officer, he’s clearly supported in his action by the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, who elects to turn a blind eye, and leave President Obama (who’s named specifically) in the dark as he cowers in fear in an underground bunker. Obama, you see, has ordered American forces to attempt to appease the Deceptecon threat by halting all collaboration with the Autobots, and agreeing to turn Sam Witwicky over to the forces of evil. By defying Obama and staging what amounts to a coup, the military saves the day.

What’s more, the film appears to indicate that Jordan and Egypt share a border right near the tip of the Gulf of Aqaba. For this to be the case, of course, Israel would have to be wiped off the map. The film doesn’t specify how this horrific turn of events took place, but I think we can take for granted that Obama’s cowardly of a settlement freeze is ultimately responsible.


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Old Jun 29, 2009, 04:30 PM Local time: Jun 29, 2009, 04:30 PM #18 of 81
Hmm, a white man who isn't offended by racist caricature of a black you say?



Observe the wide-bridged nose, a feature familiar when observing most caucasians.

Ok I'm just gonna drop the pretense, the thing has big goddamn nigga lips for Christ's sake. You are a retard.

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Old Jun 29, 2009, 08:47 PM Local time: Jun 29, 2009, 08:47 PM #19 of 81
I think there comes a time when you have to ask yourself is the mission really worth it.
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Old Jun 30, 2009, 07:09 AM Local time: Jun 30, 2009, 07:09 AM #20 of 81
The 70's don't count, bro.

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Old Jun 30, 2009, 07:50 AM Local time: Jun 30, 2009, 07:50 AM #21 of 81
As a flyover state white who uses black all the time, blogs about EAST COAST LIBERALS clearly don't apply to me.

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Old Jul 6, 2009, 01:39 PM Local time: Jul 6, 2009, 01:39 PM #22 of 81
There's a lot more things about Tyler Perry's films that are offensive beyond how you think it portrays white people (which even though I haven't seen a Madea movie since High School I'm pretty sure is accurate).

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