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Bars never went non-smoking because nobody cares. Surprise surprise, people who frequent bars don't consider their health a priority.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Denicalis

No one disputes the fact that all people who smoke weed are stupid.

uhh...

There's nowhere I can't reach.

The one thing that gave bar bans credence was that the concentration of second hand smoke in a closed environment presented health problems for workers.

Banning consumer goods because it's bad for you isn't going to get you anywhere. Anti-smoking activists would be much better served to regulate the smoking industry in order to create products that are less harmful and not as addictive.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

It makes more sense when you frame it in the context of labor rights. People who work at McDonald's aren't forced to eat the food, but if you work in a bar you are pretty much forced to inhale all that second hand smoke.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

You and I are next on the chopping block. La Terreur de Graisse.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Don't be a dumbass.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Automated looms have a danger of catching your fingers? Don't work in a textile factory.

FELIPE NO

Originally Posted by Pangalin

But you can improve the safety of the loom without directly impacting the quality of the end product. So, you know, nice analogy there.

Yeah, it is a nice analogy, because what the loom produces is immaterial to the safety of the worker. Just like what a bar produces (nothing) is immaterial to the safety of the worker.

The primary function of a bar is to serve drinks, not cigarettes. If you were demanding smoking bans in a smoke house you might have a point.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Originally Posted by Pangalin

Except that multiple examples of bars suffering massive loss of business due to smoking bans have been posted in this very thread, which would tend to indicate that allowing smoking is in fact a significant part of a bar's business model. Running a successful business is somewhat more complex than just putting your goods in a basket and holding out your palm for the money. A place that merely "serves liquor" isn't necessarily a bar. Sometimes it's just a liquor store. Nobody is saying people should be allowed to smoke in a liquor store, because that would be silly. Hell, I wouldn't even smoke in a smokes shop. There are distinctions here.

It's like saying that the function of a grocery store is to sell food, not to provide carts or cashiering services. This is true! A grocery store with no carts or customer service is still a grocery store. It's just not a very successful one, generally.

What a bar produces is entertainment, you nudnik

Ok, how about this.

Nobody should be forced to earn a living by exposing themselves to an external hazard. I.e. the smoke that customers bring in to a bar.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

"That's just the way it is" is no justification for poor working conditions.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

If we killed half the world there'd be more room for the Japanese.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

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I was speaking idiomatically.