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[Movie] Watchmen
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Old Mar 9, 2009, 05:06 AM Local time: Mar 9, 2009, 05:06 AM #1 of 68
They probably could have done a lot more if they hadn't shot 2/3rds of the movie with high speed cameras.

In any case, I was really satisfied with Jon's plot save for the ending.

Jam it back in, in the dark.
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Old Mar 10, 2009, 08:44 AM Local time: Mar 10, 2009, 08:44 AM 1 #2 of 68
I actually expected to like it more than I turned out to. Like I said, it just seemed like it was missing something. A soul, maybe. Not something I'd pay to see again.
The problem with adapting something like Watchmen is that it relies so much on Moore's supporting cast to drive home the central themes of the work. The movie doesn't ever really drive home how ridiculous the entire notion of superherodom actually is. Despite all of their personal disorders none of the characters ever come off as anything other than cool kung fu dudes. Ozymandias skirts the line of super genius manchild but his ultimate tinge of self-doubt is supplanted onto Nite Owl.

The problem with the movie is that they tried to make too many plot elements more plausible when the lynchpin holding the story together is how utterly implausible the entire thing is.

I mean, the biggest example of how this came through is how Rorschach comes off as such a cool badass. Rorschach was actually a paranoid serial killer with the moral reasoning of a child.

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The worst cgi in the movie was Bubastis, don't be such a baby.

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Old Mar 10, 2009, 12:36 PM Local time: Mar 10, 2009, 12:36 PM 3 #3 of 68
Rorschach doesn't compromise as a product of his worldview. He's not literally a mental child but his reactionary nature and black & white worldview all indicate simple moral reasoning that many people grow out of into adulthood. On Kohlberg's Stages of Moral Development he'd be stuck in Stage 4.

Rorschach works on his gut, and his character is supposed to appeal to our instincts. It's natural for us to react to Ozymandias's master plan with revulsion and to instinctively feel like everybody should know.

The movie makes Rorschach seem principled instead of paranoid and simple, so the moral uncertainty that the ending should make us feel is killed because there's little to indicate that Rorschach could very well be wrong.

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Old Mar 10, 2009, 07:42 PM Local time: Mar 10, 2009, 07:42 PM #4 of 68
Rorschach is right for the wrong reasons in my opinion, but that's a part of the uncertainty that's supposed to make you think about the implications. The movie just sort of accepts that Rorschach is right, though, and even throws in Nite Owl spergin out over Kovacs gettin blowed up for no good reason because I guess we're supposed to feel bad about it? *shrug*

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Old Mar 12, 2009, 01:55 AM Local time: Mar 12, 2009, 01:55 AM #5 of 68
My big problem with the film is its adaptive qualities. For something that attempts such a faithful adaptation, they change so many of the little things for no readily apparent reason that it shifts the tone of the entire theme, and The Watchmen is built on the little things.

It's fun to watch, though, so I'm not gonna say that people just shouldn't see it or that they can't see it without reading the comics.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Mar 12, 2009, 10:46 AM Local time: Mar 12, 2009, 10:46 AM 1 #6 of 68
Rorschach was inspired by Objectivist superhero The Question.

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Old Mar 13, 2009, 06:37 AM Local time: Mar 13, 2009, 06:37 AM 1 #7 of 68
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