Why not legalize prostitution?

Was Watts really saying that people would start patenting tricks?

I don't like the sentiment that the sex industry could be taxed as a net positive, because it's something that only beurocrats should consider. It also allows moral crusaders the opportunity to spin legalisation as a move for Big Government to rake in the cash off of our collective sin, which works in too many circles.

It's enough that two consenting adults can exchange whatever they want between each other without having to worry about police power. Any other positives are just icing on the cake.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

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At it's worst, sex can be forced upon people against their will.

There's a word for this, actually, and it's not called "sex."

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Anybody see Chasing Amy? I'm the kind of guy who can forgive people for the transgressions of their past. At the same time I wish they wouldn't have done those things in the first place.

The Justice System doesn't work the same way as your world view. A lot of morality lawyers forget that people go to prison for these kind of "transgressions."

There's nowhere I can't reach.

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I lack foresight into the possibilities. Only thing I was saying is that if DNA can be patented anything is possible.

Patenting original DNA is a bit more complicated than turning a trick so hard your John comes for 2 minutes and then trying to maintain a monopoly on it. I mean, magic tricks aren't patented either, why are you worried about this mess?

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Ouch. You asked me a question. I'm sorry you don't like the answer.

I'm going to skip any pretense of debate and go straight to the heart of the matter. You are scum. Most likely also a troll. To adamantly refuse to support an issue in the face of logic just because you feel icky about it is the most shallow reaction to any policy decision on the planet. You are what is wrong with America.

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Compassion plays a part as does morality.

Of course, the compassionate response to prostitution would be to allow hookers to practice their trade under scrutiny so that they don't have to worry about being abused by their pimps or Johns.

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Would anyone want their sister to be a prostitute? How about their child? Spouse? Parent? I'm seriously interested in what people think about this. Does prostitution bear an unfair negative stigma? Or is there something inherently undesirable about that profession?

This is a stupid question. No reasonable person wants a loved one to resort to whoring, but at the same time we shouldn't have the right to dictate what others can do with their bodies. (in the case of maturity of course)

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Yeah, this is going to be the point where most people are going to have to disagree with you, since most people don't think that our government should be playing nanny for adults.

This also doesn't account for why, necessarily, prostitution is a bad decision. With social and economic opportunities being the way they are for many people it can actually be the best decision, pimps and all. Are conservatives like you willing to give people the relief to keep them from turning tricks?

I was speaking idiomatically.

I'm still wondering how killerpineapple thinks that putting people into prison and/or stigmatizing their record is forgiving them for their transgressions. That's something I don't think was ever addressed, since I doubt he wants to think about it.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

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I have thought about forgiving criminals. Yes, I'm obligated to forgive people for their thoughts and deeds. That doesn't mean that if I was king I would let every murderer run free.

Funnily enough, sending more pimps and prostitutes to jail means early parole for murderers. Oh, Justice System, it's like you have finite resources.

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The rest of the people need to be safe from those who would endanger them.

I feel confident that my safety is being ensured against the threat of Call Girls. Give me a fucking break.

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I'm not sure if you're talking about labeling people or processing someone as a felon which can hurt their opportunities in the future. Let me know which, or if it's something else.

Both. Being processed as a solicitor is going to cut you off from a lot of opportunities, whereas if it was a legal practice any whore could walk away from pulling tricks and go into another field.

How ya doing, buddy?

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Well is was referring to murder at the time. But I'm okay with imprisoning a prostitute in places where it is illegal. Doing so prevents people from being able to solicit one.

Right, but whoring isn't a danger to the public, and while you can argue that whores spread diseases, this is easily avoided through medical regulations.

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Okay, I think I already answered the prison part of the question. As for labeling someone...that also doesn't get in the way of my ability to forgive someone. In places where prostitution is illegal it's just a matter of disclosure. But as I said, I need to be forgiving, and when encountering such people I absolutely must not judge them by their criminal record alone and be open minded as they explain it to me. I've learned that EVERYTHING in life is more complicated than it seems initially.

That's great, but you're not an employer, who tends not to be so forgiving when it comes to trusting their potential employees. Nor are you a justice system. You're absolving yourself of any responsibility regarding the incarceration of prostitutes by forgiving them on a personal level while the state continues to keep their practices in the margins and limit their potential for personal development. Then when you're confronted about the fact that their lives are being ruined, you argue some letter of the law bullshit, which you don't care about to begin with since you don't think prostitution should be legal.

You have a hypocritical and shortsighted worldview.

No school board is going to want to employ a teacher who doubles as a working girl. You're inventing ridiculous hypotheticals.

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All of the arguments are wrong anyways.

Human trafficking is only marginally impacted regardless of legalized prostitution. A black market for sex slaves will always exist.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Looks like somebody's being serious in the Political Palace.

Your posts seemed to attempt to convey the idea that legalized prostitution would make it harder for human traffickers.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

There would be little reason for them to do so as well. It's not like a brothel madame is under the same competitive pressures as a bacon dog vendor.

How ya doing, buddy?

Criminalizing a health issue is a surefire way to turn it into a social one. Assuming that the majority of prostitution results from some form of coercion, how does the criminalization of the behavior and the subsequent punishments and records from enforcement help prostitutes break the chain of coercion? A criminal record involving a sexual taboo is like being relegated to a caste.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Originally Posted by Tamburlaine

I've said it a million times now: I am perfectly fine with legalized prostitution, as long as no people are forced into it by economic conditions, because that is exploitation.

Unless you are a Capitalist or petit-bourgeoisie you are by definition being exploited.

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Originally Posted by Bradylama

Unless you are a Capitalist or petit-bourgeoisie you are by definition being exploited.

This could arguably make prostitution the least exploitative industry, since whores posess control over the means of their production (sex), in the absence of the capitalist (pimp).

How ya doing, buddy?

Marx was a dumbass.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by Tamburlaine

When did I ever argue for communism? All I said is each US Citizen is entitled to $50,000 worth of services.

You didn't actually say this, but now that you have I can say that it's extremely retarded.

$50,000 in services is far too great a cost to avoid some people becoming prostitutes. In fact, if I was entitled to $50,000 worth of anything I just would not work anymore.

Furthermore, the statement that people are only entitled to $50,000 ignores that many individuals may in fact require greater costs in care. For instance, a person on UHC who requires 75,000 USD in medical bills may be turned down for treatment because they are only entitled to $50,000 of services, even though the prevailing idea behind UHC is the right of all people to healthcare.

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