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Ron Paul and state powers
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Bradylama
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Old Dec 11, 2007, 06:45 PM Local time: Dec 11, 2007, 06:45 PM #1 of 33
It's good for some things, bad for most things. Specifically Paul has proposed the We The People Act, which would bar Federal courts from hearing cases regarding the free association clause of the First Amendment.

I hope you'll understand what's wrong with that.

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Old Dec 11, 2007, 07:22 PM Local time: Dec 11, 2007, 07:22 PM #2 of 33
I don't really understand. I'm sorry. the first amendment is freedom of speech (and basically individuality), but what is the free association clause?
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

We the People Act:
"If made law, the Act would forbid federal courts (including the Supreme Court) from hearing cases on subjects such as the display of religious text and imagery on government property, abortion, sexual practices, and same-sex marriage, unless those cases were a challenge to the constitutionality of the laws in question. It would also make federal court decisions on those subjects non-binding as precedent in state courts."

What 14th Amendment?

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Frankly, I'm surprised by this. Protection of broad first amendment rights is, in a manner of speaking, a clearly enumerated power of the Federal Government and is in conflict with his declared Constitutionalist values.
Paul is more of a legal constitutionalist. He believes in the letter of the law, but does not mind changing it (legally), which would be a pretty cool thing for a Republican to do if he wasn't also a neo-confederate.

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Old Dec 12, 2007, 04:08 PM Local time: Dec 12, 2007, 04:08 PM #3 of 33
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As for giving the states more powers, I'm all for that. Having one federal law supercede state law is ridiculous IMO.
What, you mean like the Civil Rights Act?

Nobody (sane) would argue that it's cool for the DEA to raid medical marijuana facilities, but think about your blanket statements, please.

EDIT: FDA, DEA, same thing right? lol

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Old Dec 13, 2007, 05:49 AM Local time: Dec 13, 2007, 05:49 AM #4 of 33
Blue States can already do that if enough voters push for it.

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Old Dec 14, 2007, 12:26 PM Local time: Dec 14, 2007, 12:26 PM #5 of 33
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As if any of your beloved socialist Democrats aren't every bit as racist as Ron Paul.
Well they don't let crypto-racists write their newsletters very often so I guess so.

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Whereas, y'know, I'm one of those guys who actually expects someone to actually write down exactly what they mean, since I don't have the benefit of hearing things like inflection or vocal tone via a forum post.
You can infer what he says from the basic idea of taxation. The more money taxed by the fed the less income people have to keep for themselves, so if the state raises taxes in addition to a high federal tax then people will have much less income and resent them for it.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Dec 14, 2007, 04:26 PM Local time: Dec 14, 2007, 04:26 PM #6 of 33
Is that a KKK version of the DaVinci Code or something?
The Survivalist newsletters were written by Llewellyn Rockwell, and he's the one who wrote the "fleet footed black men" line. He's also a confederate apologist, and one of Ron Paul's BFFs.

Whenever he talks about blacks he always stops just short of saying the niggers should be sent back to Africa, but oddly enough he also admires Somalia for being the anarcho-capitalist paradise with its super duper telecom industry.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
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