Bigger travesty: Slavery vs. Holocaust

There are actually a lot of slavery museums if you count Civil Rights museums.

How ya doing, buddy?

Alright, Arainach. How many people have been killed by religion?

Most amazing jew boots

Originally Posted by RacinReaver

All those people killed by God's floods, locusts, and...um...extra oil for their lanterns.

Touché, RR. Touché.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Quote:

If you REALLY want to be specific, you could make note of things like the fact that the Vatican objected to Hitler's euthanasia policies but not the holocaust and that one of the main justifications of the holocaust in Germany was Christian superiority and attribute the holocaust there too.

That's not actually religion killing people, so much as religion turning a blind eye to the killing of people.

The World Wars weren't started by religion, the Cold War and all of its proxy wars weren't started by religion, Roman conquest and Barbarian resistance was not started by religion, Communism wasn't a product of religion, Fascism wasn't a product of religion, nor was the slave trade.

Attila the Hun did not ransack Europe because of religion. Ghenghis Khan did not slaughter half of the Khwarezmid Empire because of religion.

The list goes on and on and on and on and on. Cruelties upon cruelties, all of which involving behaviors which predate religion, but that is of no concern to people like you who are so zealous in the destruction of religion that you would paint it as the worst thing to ever befall humanity with lies and half-truths, when it has only begun to hold us back.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

If you think the Bible enabled people to portray the Jews as the "Other" you've got another thing coming.

The Bible wasn't needed to portray the Irish as sub-humans, for instance.

You're saying that religion is culpable for being the weapon, and not the people that wield it.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by GhaleonQ

What good came of any ethnic cleansing, though?

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

I didn't notice the slavery comment, so I'd like to address it now:

There aren't really any benefits from slavery, since slavery isn't as efficient as free labor. It's never been a good system, and the only reason it exists is so that those with power can claim ownership over other human beings.

Any institutions or societies built on the back of slaves were created unnecessarily at the cost of human lives, and if those people had done that work as free men the world would be a much better place.

FELIPE NO

Yeah, and all the blacks would still be in Africa.

I'm not sure how great a good it is that slavery freed some people from a Dark Continent that is still steeped in slavery and various other forms of forced labor.

The assumption that Washington makes is that Africa would still be an ignorant global backwater without the slave trade. This likely would not be the case if people did not institutionalize forced labor, anywhere.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?