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V for Vendetta
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Old Mar 17, 2006, 07:57 AM Local time: Mar 17, 2006, 07:57 AM #1 of 75
I recently read the comic in its entirety in anticipation of the movie, and I fear that I now have a concrete understanding of the source material, that the Wachowski Brothers will gay it up.

I've also heard a lot of conflicting information about the movie from incompetent newsvendors, such as that the setting is based on the premise that the Nazis won World War 2, or that the movie is based around V's plot to blow up the Houses of Parliament. I don't think I have to tell you that these are false concerning the source material.

At best, I'm expecting it to be dumbed down.

Jam it back in, in the dark.
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Old Mar 17, 2006, 06:55 PM Local time: Mar 17, 2006, 06:55 PM #2 of 75
"The White Man's Burden." Basically, the thinking that since the White Man was the most culturally and technologically advanced race on the planet, that they had a moral obligation to rule the lesser peoples and bring them to enlightened, civilized ways of life.

You could say this was the reasoning behind the all-human governing body of the Empire, if Lucas actually went more in depth beyond mere symbology.

It's not necessarily a Nazi ideal.

Also Lehah, I'm just saying that the Alliance was wrong, not that they were terrorists. =P

I've lost any chance of finding this movie enjoyable. If Moore thinks it's imbecillic, then it's confirmed all of my fears. I'll have to watch it anyways, since I know my opinion matters to you.

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You have to take into account that religious fanatics have the luxury of not having to distinguish between uniformed or civilian adversaries. Infidels will be infidels.
That's bullshit. Islamist Revolutionaries are clearly able to distinguish between a civilian pop, potentially innocent even, and a military and governmental front. Terrorists purposely target civilians in order to facilitate political change, since openly combating governments and their militaries is an excercize in futility.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

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Old Mar 17, 2006, 07:31 PM Local time: Mar 17, 2006, 07:31 PM #3 of 75
If that's the case, then why not base the movie in America, and have V blow up Congress? If Spielberg could get away with properly Americanizing his dreadful version of War of the Worlds, why shouldn't the Wachowski's have done the same for a message intended for Americans?

Keeping the movie set in Britain is going to distance their intended audience from the material.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Mar 17, 2006, 07:46 PM Local time: Mar 17, 2006, 07:46 PM #4 of 75
That's retarded. They've already succesfully alienated fans of the comic by altering the story so much (in Spielberg's case it was enough to make it implausible). They might have well gone full-out and focused it on something that would identify with an American audience, ignorant of the comics. Our first posters were some of these people.

The UK wasn't a totalitarian state at the time Moore wrote it, either. He had to create the war to make the situation plausible. The same can be said for the US.

If you've ever read Y: The Last Man on Earth, a similar situation almost happens, but that was pretty lame. (I do like Y, but it could do with less College Democrat)

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Old Mar 17, 2006, 08:55 PM Local time: Mar 17, 2006, 08:55 PM #5 of 75
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Of course they can, but their distorted moral code enables them to target either and - as you pointed out - preferably the easier targets (read: civilians). And I guess if someone is willing to blow himself and other people up, he surely had enough of whatever radical ideology he might follow to justify about anything with it.
Yet you don't need a distorted moral code to attack targets of opportunity. Their moral code doesn't make them any better or worse than the Oklahoma City Bomber.

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I wasn't talking about what you said. I've read it other places in infuriating stupidity
Clearly armed dissent == terrorism

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Mar 18, 2006, 12:12 PM Local time: Mar 18, 2006, 12:12 PM #6 of 75
Go back to Azeroth, your Epic Mount is waiting.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
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Old Mar 18, 2006, 06:58 PM Local time: Mar 18, 2006, 06:58 PM #7 of 75
Clarifying between Terrorists and Freedom Fighters is relevant to the movie, you shitheel. One of the more important questions of the book is whether or not V is really a revolutionary, or is simply working towards his own personal vendetta.

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Old Mar 20, 2006, 06:32 AM Local time: Mar 20, 2006, 06:32 AM #8 of 75
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War of the Worlds has been "Amercanized" since 1938, don't hold it against Spielberg.
To be fair, Orson Welles accidentally convinced millions of Americans that they were being invaded by Martians. Orson Welles also included the gas. What did Spielberg do?

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