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Bradylama
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Old Feb 26, 2007, 04:32 PM Local time: Feb 26, 2007, 04:32 PM #1 of 54
Long-term predictions which take place over the course of thousands of years. Like Gechmir said, we only really have records of temperatures from a hundred years ago, not too long after the beginning of the Industrial Revolution. You're saying that despite this very short distance in the breadth of time that we can make accurate predictions based on geological records to conclude that human influence is an overwhelming cause of global warming?

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Old Feb 26, 2007, 04:46 PM Local time: Feb 26, 2007, 04:46 PM #2 of 54
I suppose this is the part where I'm supposed to let Gechmir make the same points he's made several times in the past in regards to intellectual dishonesty and the lack of real scientific evidence, but I suppose he doesn't really understand science either.

Lordy lordy, what wass I to be thinkin' a talkin bout sciency talks which ah doesn't cain't unnerstanz.

You're right, though, it is one Hell of a coincidence that the Industrial Revolution kicked in just as the planet was coming out of the "Little Ice Age."

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Old Feb 26, 2007, 11:53 PM Local time: Feb 26, 2007, 11:53 PM #3 of 54
I don't think you're getting it, Arainach. When the Industrial Age kicked in (in fact when it started), the planet was already in "The Little Ice Age," a minor cooling period. (relatively) Well into the mid-1800s the planet began shifting back into a warming trend, coming out of the Little Ice Age. Did the planet begin warming because of the relatively minor emissions comparable to today being put into the atmosphere? It's impossible to say. The warming period following the Little Ice Age coinciding with the Industrial Revolution is exactly that, a coincidence.

There's no amount of real science that can establish emissions as the most influential factor in global warming, only hearsay, guesswork, and "scientific consensus."

Even assuming that the popular opinion is correct and that human emissions really are causing a tremendous amount of warming, the scientific community is still nonetheless lying to everybody. The evidence has never clearly shown that human influence is to blame, it's only ever shown that we're in a warming period.

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Old Feb 27, 2007, 04:15 AM Local time: Feb 27, 2007, 04:15 AM #4 of 54
I was talking about instrumental data, which is the only accurate method of declaring the temperatures for a certain date.

Other methods can only ever provide guess work based on relative factors. Multiple studies attempting to determine the temperatures for the same date won't corroborate exactly, but over the course of tens to hundreds to thousands of years they become indicative of trends.

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Old Feb 27, 2007, 02:56 PM Local time: Feb 27, 2007, 02:56 PM #5 of 54
Like what? You think we're accomplishing something here? I'm already inclined to believe that human impact on global warming is negligible. On the other hand, I limit the amount of power I use because one of my primary concerns is energy sustainability, not some shit ugly frogs in the rainforest or the Dutch.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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