[Multiplatform] Ivalice Alliance

Alright, Regards to the "First" Half of this Thread:

NOTE:The following, is speculation and assumption;

CREDITS:
Up until this forum, I never even heard that Vagrant Story (VS), was related to Ivalice. The subtle details referring to Final Fantasy Tactics (FFT) and Final Fantasy XII (FFXII), were missed by my lack of consciousness.

The reference of Final Fantasy Tactics Advance (FFTA), in the thread, was also very helpful, because the scenario of a "Kids Point of View" never occured in my mind, Until Now.

Also I must credit those who inputted information here. (I'm new, so I would've have "Quoted" or given them more... "Specific" credit, I apologize)

Anyways...

Someone had been Looking for a Whole Map of Ivalice?

MAP:

Here's the Screenshots for Both Games: (FFT and FFXII)

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b6...FFTIvalice.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b6...alice_FF12.jpg

Details:

Rozarria was on the west side (Ordalia;FFXII)
-There is another Piece of land (FFT) west of Ordalia
--Someone mentioned that FFT took place in Rozarria
---If I recall all land in FFT was under "Rozarria" land.

Archades was all of the northeast (Valendia; FFXII)
-Referrence from VS, states it took place in the kingdom* of Valendia

This evidence shows, that each game only showed "Half" of Ivalice, as the other half was irrelevant toward the plot

CHARACTERS:

Alazlam J. Durai
-He is the famous historian of Ivalice.
--It is mentioned (wikipedia) that he began writing the history of "FFT" 400 years after the incident.
---This brings up the fact that, VS, because of the qoute by him, must've taken place after 400+ years after FFT
----In FFT a non-playable character named, Olan Durai existed; He was the adopted son of Cidolfas Orlandu.

Bunanza Family
-The crafts man of FFXII and FFT have a common surname
-- All of use some kind of "firearm" as a weapon
---The inconsistancy is that; Mistudio and Bersordio (Father) were in Rozarria
(East of Archades, FFXII)
----While Ffamran (Balthier) and Cid Demen Bunanza are met in the Archades end of Ivalice

TIMELINE:

FFXII used the "Old Valendian Calender"
(Referring that Valendia already existed before FFXII, consider VS)

As FFT was in it's "Middle Ages"

Wikipedia, states:
The common "important" date was when St. Ajora formed a new religion*
-This takes place about 100 years after FFXII.
-Parrallel to this time, In FFT, the same event occurs:
--St. Ajora forms the Glabados Religion, This was 1200 years before FFT

Meaning, FFXII was before FFT

My question is, does that mean; After FFXII, Ivalice reached a "Dark Age" and the races asside from Hume become extinct? Also, Would Airships have become lost technology? (Keep in mind, FFT took place in "West" Ivalice, and FFXII took place in "East" Ivalice (Map assumption))

VS also took place in a mideval time.
-But Valendia must've existed before FFXII, because there would be know Valendian Calender, nor the "tombs" and references in FFXII.
--This doesn't imply that it was VS's Valendia. The tombs were the of another era of Ivalice, not in-game

Lastly, FFTA, began in an Urban timeline, And if recall it was only a town* named Ivalice. And the actual world was only a created from the imagination of children. Al-Cid Margrace invites Ashe to his family's vacation spot in Ambervale. This location was in FFTA;it is the summer home of the royal family. This supports that, Rozarria did exist in FFTA, and the connections are justified.

Keep in mind this was all read from a book, and perscieved from a child.
And because of its Urban beginning it meant it was far pass the medeval period of FFT or FFXII or VS.

The only name that has surpassed all the years is Alazlam J. Durai.
The book was an ancient book called the Gran Grimoire.
(This was only a copy. There were a few others)

The Gran Grimoire was also found in VS, (But the Gran Grimoire was the town intself?)

Someone stated:

Because they are children, they did not perceive the "darker" side of Ivalice, it was of a child's dream and game, nothing more. The children would have not meddled with such political and warlike affairs.

My Timeline goes as Follows:

FFXII,FFTA* ~1-2 years~ FFXII-RW ~1200 years~ FFT ~400+years~ VS ~Centuries After~ FFTA*

*FFTA began centuries after, but the children's perception is paralleled with FFXII

Now, for the "Second" part of the thread:

To me, the PS3 sucks. There too much power being put into it.

Also, FFT was never a full-front game. It was still a sleeper, and it should remain that way. FFTA was disappointing at first, because the Ivalice "I loved" was gone, but as FFXII joined in, It rekindled my joy. (FFTA still isn't my favorite)

FFXII was probably the most popular "Ivalice" game yet.

But I'd still like the "tactics" games to remain on handheld. Just because games involve thinking and strategizing, should be best taken on the road.
(It took me 70 hours to beat FFT, and I'd wish i could've taken it elsewhere)
(Like Fire Emblem, or S.R.T or Ygddra Union.)

All that asside.

FFT A2, Grimoire of the Sealed Hole = DS
FFXII-RW = DS
FFT:TLW = PSP
FFT2? = PSP

Just to keep it uniformed.
Nintendo got the "A's"
While,
Sony get the other* kind?

I think I'm forgetting something... Sorry...

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by Metal Sphere

Oh shit, Mustadio's got motherfucking competition. Hell their last names are >< close to being the same as well. Maybe he's part of an elaborate sidequest they put into the game?

Y'no, They are suppose to have the same last name... The only difference is the z's and s's also maybe tha a's and u's... but... Thats all done by the translator...

Also, what i've heard/read/know... is they are of the same family... and gah... Square surely is trying to confuse people...

What I'm trying to say is that... Under the impression of the timeline from the director (courtesy of wikipedia)... FFXII takes approx. 1200 years BEFORE...
(READ MY HOURS OF WORK IN THAT WHOLE COMPILATION)

ehe... but to have Balthier be an extra such as cloud was during the game... maybe a replacement cloud?... then it's plausable...

though in my preference... it would be nice to form a "Team" of all my favorite characters... which does include Cloud and balthier.

Anyways... Square likes being inconsistant... and I'm slowly getting irratated... Um... Am I forgeting something?

Oh, Mistudio does have compitition... I mean... Balthier's slick looking shirt totally beats his blue overalls and yellow shirt... ahaha...

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by B.K.

Apparently, in Japanese, their last names ARE the same. I wonder if Mustadio is a descendant of Balthier.

This was my point... in japanese Mistudio and Balthier DO have the same name... And it's the translator's decision of making it S/Z...

It really won't matter which they use in FFT:TLW... cuz the translator will probably be different...

And... Besides the confusing storyline of FFT...

FFT... does surpass FFTA in all aspects...

Does anyone know if the Onion knight has other abilities that differ from squire/chemist... (I mean the branching system)

Also... Did anyone use the "Job Point" -> "Job Mastery" cheat?
Y' think they'd have fixed that?

Ah, Um... FFT A2 is gonna about hu? JW...

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Well, with the appearance of Balthier... I assume they would replace Cloud... since he isn't the hot new Final Fantasy "Icon" currently...

as FFVII was back then, FFXII is now...

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Originally Posted by Manny Biggz

We all know the only real reason to get Cloud is to get Beowulf, and the Dragon along the way.

Refresh my memory... My party had all the secret characters... but... I think i'm forgeting something...

Can you tell me the "secret character" or the "special sprited" units...

Theres the siblings... mistudio, agrias, orlandu, ramza... and i think those are all you get by story...

Then there's Beowulf, Cloud, Dragoneer lady, Worker 8, am I missing people? It's been a while...

I was speaking idiomatically.