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[PS2] Final Fantasy XII
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Old Dec 31, 2006, 05:36 PM #1 of 4284
I'm still trying to find out the use of Vanish/Vanishga

What does it really do?

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Old Dec 31, 2006, 05:51 PM #2 of 4284
That's what everyone's been trying to figure out... basically, it makes the targeted enemy impossible to target. I've been trying to figure out a use for such a spell.
I used Vanishga while trying to hunt for Moondust in the Feywood. What I did notice is that sometimes those Tartarus chase me less farther than if I didn't have the spell on, or it's just me. Oh well.

It's a shame that this spell has a high magic cost and doesn't seem to do anything.

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Old Dec 31, 2006, 06:49 PM #3 of 4284
Just got Yagyu Darkblade after 8th Bombshell chain

Got every weapon except Wyrmhero Blade and Danjuro (which I am not even going to ask or whine if I don't get)

By the way, is the Larva Eater really the ONLY way to get Danjuro?

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Dec 31, 2006, 07:02 PM #4 of 4284
Again. That is NOT working. I've tried that, and I licensed it for another character to use on Ashe (who is reflected.) I've tried wearing it down by casting crap on her, I've tried killing her... it will not go away. I got it from one of the hounds in Giruvegan, and I'm IN giruvegan right now. I did it make it clear, by the way.
Do you have Mirror Mail armor equipped?

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Old Dec 31, 2006, 07:33 PM #5 of 4284
.....

Throw that armor away. It's made out of... excuse my while I say this, useless and fail. Unless you're planning on sacrificing your precious accessory slots to the Opal Rings that allow you to cast through Reflect, or setting up some novel gambit setup where you bounce everything off yourself and only one person is the healer, ditch it.

I was horrified when I bought it and found I was restricted from using magic until I bought/made the rings.

Edit: Ugh, it's the same thing for Hermes Sandals too. I completely forgot about those things. They take up an accessory slot, and if you get hit with slow? You have to take them off to remove that crap, since Haste will constantly miss (due to your haste shoes).

Fun fact: I've heard that a character with Bubble status will be immune to Disease. I've never actually tried it out, give me a few.
Edit #2: Yeah, it works. Kept tossing Vaccines at Balthier (Bubble Belt) with the Nihopalaoa equipped and got nothing but misses.
That helps alot. Every time I run into those swarm traps at Ridorana I always die later from baddies. (Note to self: Use Float)

Speaking of Reflect, does anyone have a gambit setup for Reflect/Reflectga?

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Dec 31, 2006, 07:59 PM #6 of 4284
What are your gambits anyway?

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
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Old Jan 1, 2007, 10:29 AM #7 of 4284
What I'm mad about are the crappy designs for the Zodiac Spear and Zodiac Eschutheon. I mean the Z. Spear looks almost exactly as the normal spear and the Z. Eschutheon looks like a regular Eschutheon.

For some of the most rarest equipment in the game, why give them such bland designs? Most of the time, I use the Dragon Whisker cause that Z.Spear looks like shit. My party should have appealing equipment that resembles the shitload of work they've gone through to earn it.

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Old Jan 11, 2007, 11:52 PM #8 of 4284
Where is the best place to search for Brave Suit? I've literally tried to search for them in Henne Mines for about a day but haven't gotten any luck. In Great Crystal, the treasure chest doesn't even seem to spawn there anymore even though I never got a Brave Suit in there.

And what is the percentage rate that a Brave Suit will appear in each of these places.

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Old Jan 12, 2007, 12:32 AM #9 of 4284
I suggest you try the one in Henne, because if you get the suit in the Great Crystal chest, you miss out on the rarer (and better) item permanently, in that location. Luckily the one in Henne is pretty close and easy to do the zoning technique to get it to respawn.

ARE YOU SERIOUS! This is the exact location that I have spent the past 20 hours trying to get the chest to appear while dogding those fucking abysteel and their goddamn leech shit. This place is hell.

If you are talking about getting a Zodiac Eschuctheon I already have one and I think one is enough, but the problem is even after I got the shield in the Great Crystal, I've yet to see another chest reappear from where I got it. And in the Henne Mines near the Teleport Crystal, the chest only gives me either ton of gil or Knot of Rust always. And I equipped the Diamond Armlet too, still no luck. This shit is harder to get than any other weapon in the game.

Do you need the Diamond Armlet equipped and also if a chest doesn't appear, how many zones do you need to go back? And where did you get your Brave Suit Metal Sphere?

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Old Jan 12, 2007, 12:52 AM #10 of 4284
Still not harder to obtain than a dagger with a 1% drop rate or a spear with a .01% chance of getting it.
When you say the 1% drop rate you are referring to the Danjuro right? Wasn't there a method to get it like the Helvinek/Bombshell glicth? Keep zoning back and forth for like 15-20 min. right and eventually he will appear.

But for the Zodiac Spear, I thought that once you open specific treasure chests there is no way in hell to get it anymore cause .01% = almost impossible.

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Old Jan 12, 2007, 02:30 AM #11 of 4284
Wait... wait, what!? Helvinek/Bombshell glitch? I haven't even heard of any of those, care to explain? Danjuro's dropped by Larvae Eater which you can force a spawn of if you make a chain of 255 Necrophobes and then head to one of 3 platforms. Other than that, I've only caught him near the XVII waystone randomly.
This Helvinek method is very useful and one of the most reliable ways for a guaranteed Grand Armor posted on GameFaqs forum I believe. (Can't post the video since YouTube is down).

1st.) First you spawn Helvinek by killing 6 Oversouls (I think).

2nd.) This part is important: [Wherever Helvinek spawns, you only kill him in the zone that he spawned in!]

Let him follow until you are all the way near the end of a zone and are able to see those floating blue dots that signifies that the zone is at its end so that you can easily flee from one zone to another. Beat him up and keep track of his power until he is at HP Critical status.

3rd.) This is important to: [AS soon as you kill Helvinek, QUICKLY run from where you've killed him to the next zone. IF you have time to pick up his loot, pick it up] What I mean by this is that once you've killed Helvinek, you'll have about 2-3 sec to pick up his loot and go to your closest zone until he dissapears permanently.

(If you want to pick up Helvinek's loot, stay at his SIDE, pick it up and immediately run to the next zone! This process should take about 2-3 sec. If you kill him and run to the next zone you should NOT have seen Helvinek's EXP. and LP points earned. Make sure to switch zones right before his corpse collapses onto the floor.)

4th.) Once you've immediately killed Helvinek and are in the next zone, GO BACk to where you've originally fought it.

5th.) Helvinek re-appears and you can now keep chaining him! Repeat 2nd - 4th method again.

This method is said to work for Bombshells but I find it hard to believe since Bombshell's figure is a sphere and I don't think you can pick up loot at his side.

If that doesn't work for Bombshell, you can try to do the zoning trick.

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1st.) Go to Lasche Span section in Lhusu (bridge with Aeronites)

2nd.) Look for Bombshell by running all the way down to Site 5

3rd.) If Bombshell wasn't there, keep zoning from Site 5 to Lasche Span. Loading time should be relatively quick (do NOTzone from Lasche Span to Site 11 because loading time to switch from zone to zone is longer) Do this about 10-15 times or so. By continuiosly zoning, you will eventually lock Bombshell in place at Lasche and he will stay there permanently until you've defeated him.

4th.) Most likely if you go back to Lasche Span, you should find Bombshell somewhere. Let him follow you until you've reached the edge of the zone. Then fight him.

5th) Take his loot and FLEE all the way to Site 9 .( If you are using a party member with Berserk to fight him, make sure that after you've killed him to switch that party member with another. Sometimes Berserk party members may inadvertently attack enemies while still in Fleeing mode which may break the chain.) Then repeat steps 1 - 5

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Use Karchy's method from Gamespot for the Danjuro and I swear to God, I did NOT have to kill 255 Necrophobes OR do the Mom Bomb method OR chain Larva Eater in order to drop a Danjuro. Personally, this method is NOT 100% guranteed.

1st.) Go to Leo Gate Switch in Great Crystal

2nd.) This is what I did: Killed all the Necrophobes until no more spawned.

3rd.) When no more Necrophobes spawn, zone to Leo Gate I and go back to Leo Gate Switch

4th.) This is important: (From now on, keep zoning from Leo Gate Switch to Waystone XIV. This part is really time consuming. You may want to get a rubber band and force the analog stick to point DOWN so you will automatically zone form Waystone XIV area to Leo Gate Switch area)

5th.) Check and see if Larva Eater is at Waystone XIV. Reapers may also spawn here but it doesn't matter except if you want to chain him. If he is, fight him, obviously.

6th.) This is important: (Do NOT use 2-Handed weapons that push enemies away when fighting Larva Eater. By using 2-Handed weapons like Excal. Tourn. you might knock him to the edge of where the Waystone is. Ninja swords are an exception. When you do that, he will NOT drop anything if you kill him by knocking him to the edge.) Play it safe and bring him near the Waystone to kill him. Then pick up the loot he drops (if any)

7th.) Once you've killed him, go all the way back to Leo Gate I and then back to Waystone XIV area. If he is not here, keep zoning from Waystone XIV to Leo Gate Switch.

Mind you Larva Eater's rarity is 1 star, it shouldn't take 255 kills for a 1-star rare game to kill right?

I hope these guides work and I thank all of these people for making such wonderful guides!

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

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Old Jan 12, 2007, 03:04 AM #12 of 4284
What!? There's no way that Helvinek trick works, he simply disappears too fast. I'd have to manually kill him, with no gambits on whatsoever to make a break that fast. Picking up the loot, which is the whole point, seems to be entirely too difficult without breaking the chain. Larvae Eater's is absolutely insane. That zoning from not one, two, but three maps? What if the Reapers pop? It just seems like even more of a hassle that may not even net you the desired results.

Bombshell's is by far the most reasonable, which is essentially locking him into the field by simply going from the span to 5 over and over again. Kill, repeat the zone-in-out thing until he spawns again. Right?

You zone from one zone to the other. Only two zones are involved When I say have him near the edge of the zone. I mean that if you were to flee away to the next zone it should take to secs. tops to move to the next zone. That's how close to the edge you'll have to be

For example: If Helvinek appears at Cloister of Distant Song, you drag him all the way near the end of the zone where the stairs are; near the Cloister of the Highborn. When you are fighting Helvinek near the stairs close to the edge of the zone when he dies, you hurry up and move to Cloister of the Highborn. That's it. If done successfully, Helvinek will respawn at Cloister of Highborn also! Your first priority is making sure you have enough to time to zone out.

But do Not kill him there. Kill him at Clositer of Distant Song, where he originally spawned. So go back to Cloister of Distant Song

Make sure to have your party leader have one gambit on: Foe nearest - Attack.

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For the Bombshell method, you are correct. After he dies go back two spaces to respawn him. And he will eventually be locked by moving from Lasche to Site 5

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For Larva Eater, once you've killed him the first time, you go back two spaces to Leo Gate I. Since you've killed all the Necrophobes in Leo Gate Switch, no more will be there. After that you only zone from Waystone XIV to Leo Gate Switch. Kinda like Bombshell method.

When you've killed Larva Eater, move to Leo Gate Switch, then Leo Gate I. Then back to Leo Gate Switch and back to Waystone XIV. AFter that ONLY alternate from Waystone XIV to Leo Gate Switch area. If you want to continue your chain on Larva, I guess you can drag the Reapers (if they come) and bring them to HP Critical status so they can do Dimensional Rift onto you.

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Old Jan 12, 2007, 03:31 AM #13 of 4284
In other words, you lure him to the edge of the zone, kill him and then run into the following map. He'll spawn there right in front of you, but simply go back to the one where you actually killed him in? I read up on the method like 3 times, but there doesn't seem to be any time/space to take the loot BEFORE he fades/exp appears because he lands right on it.).
Your are correct about the method. For the loot, that's why you pick the loot at his side. Keep hugging him at his waist and you should be able to pick up the loot. You can't pick it up if he is facing you or if you are behind him. Get at his side. If you aren't able to pick up the loot it time, zone out immediately!


Ah, to avoid post-battle buffing and to make the breakaway clean?.)
Correct!


Three spaces? Don't you need two to reset the map, then you constantly zone between 5 and Lasche to make him appear? I think I understand, unlike the Danjuro shit which is insanely complicated. Too much to watch out for (goddamn reapers, for example, are too frequent at that waystone), making it a little futile. Can't discount what I've read in my googling of these methods though (it works)
I think I've edited this post after I originally posted it. Sorry

But it's ridiculous to go past a Lvl.2 chain for a Yagyu to drop. You should get it at least at your 30th kill

I was speaking idiomatically.

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Old Jan 12, 2007, 03:45 AM #14 of 4284
Ok, so stick to his side while staying as close to the zone edge as possible and once I pick it up, dash through. If I can't get the loot, run to the next zone? I assume yes in order to preserve the chain, no?
Yes! Yes! Running to the next zone is TOP priority. You always have an infinite number of chances to get the loot again and most likely, you want to get the chain as high as possible so there is no need actually to start picking up loot at the early stages of the chain.

But if an enemy decides to come up out of nowhere in the middle of the battle, leave Helvinek alone, kill the enemy who is interrupting, and then return back to Helvinek.

Has the method worked so far?

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Old Jan 12, 2007, 04:30 AM #15 of 4284
Well, personally I've gotten 2 Grand Armors after my 80th chain so most likely you'll see it soon. No more recipes for making High Arcana since would basically be getting them while picking up the loot!

Also, does anyone have a method for beating Zodiark and/or Yiazmat without Reverse?

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Old Jan 12, 2007, 04:46 AM #16 of 4284
You know which method would probably drive me fucking mad? Tower. Essentially, you save at the save point all the way at the top of the Pharos, use the metallic warp to go back down to 79 and...
  • Warp back up to 88 until it appears
  • Kill him and then run up to 88
  • Repeat the first part. This way you chain him and eventually he'll drop the helmet, but simply getting him to show up when I was finishing my bestiary (bitch was the final monster), was a mindnumbing experience.
Did you pre-kill those golems in Mosphoran Heights first to get your chain up, then go to Pharos? It's way more easier that way.

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Old Jan 12, 2007, 05:12 AM #17 of 4284
!!!

I'm not in the Pharos now, I'm still chaining Helvinek, but that's an awesome idea. They're the same genus, so it'd work. The only problem is that there's like 4 in all of the Highwaste. Maybe going in and out of the campsite will do it?
Sure does work. Like you said, they are the same genus, therefore are related to Tower.

1st) There are 2 Clay Golems near some shrine in Rays of Ashen Light (you might want to solo this with a person with Float and 1 Gysahl Green). Kill them and do NOT pick up their loot.

2nd.)This is important: (Zone from Rays of Ashen Light to Trail of Sky-flung Stone to Northern Skirts and back to where the golems are; Rays of Ashen Light area. Do NOT go back to campsite, Babbling Vale. If you do, I think the chain will break but I'm not sure.)

If you can't go from Rays of Ashen Light to Trail of Sky-flung Stone it's probably because a rock is blocking the path. To make the path appear, knock down the rock to the south of the Northern Skirts zone entrance

3rd.) Once you have your chain at max., ride the chocobo at Rays of Ashen Light all the way through Salikawood to Phon Coast, Kaukula Pass to board the Strahl to Ridorana Cataract. (Do NOTuse Teleport stone to Pharos)

4th.) FLEE all the way to Pharos and then find Tower without killing anything but Tower. By then, you'll have reached Tower with a chain level at Max.

Still very time consuming method.

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Old Jan 12, 2007, 01:01 PM #18 of 4284
My guide also says that i can find hastega in shout bank village, i went there, but the shop only sold weapons (only the gold axe), and accessories (i bought there the diamond armlet). So, how am i supposed to get hastega?
Is there any good guide for sidequests too? Shotgunnova's one sidequest is really good.
Lionking-Cyan

Spoiler:

Hastega is bought at Dalmasca Estersand, South Bank Village AFTER Reddas dies I believe


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Larvae Eater's is absolutely insane. That zoning from not one, two, but three maps?
I'm so sorry if I've said that. What I mean is once you've gotten Larva Eater to spawn and killed it at Waystone XIV, you zone two spaces back (definetely not three sorry) all the way to Leo Gate I in order to reset the spawn. After that, you go back to Waystone XIV area and keep zoning from that area to Leo Gate Switch area.

Originally Posted by Metal Sphere
What if the Reapers pop? It just seems like even more of a hassle that may not even net you the desired results.
I wasn't intending to gain a chain on Larva Eater so I killed every Reaper that spawned in Waystone XIV when Larva Eater was there. If the Reapers come out anyway, just get them to HP Critical status and wait for them to do Dimensional Rift although preserving the chain by doing so is really time consuming.

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Old Jan 12, 2007, 03:58 PM #19 of 4284
I posted the video of some random chinesse player that got the Strongest halberd from henne AND doing the chest thingy .. Ill try to find it again that was AGES ago I dont know if is in this thread.
OMG! Are you serious?! If that's possible, then maybe the Brave Suit is actually possible to get.

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Old Jan 12, 2007, 07:04 PM #20 of 4284
Have you tried the method I posted for the Danjuro Metal Sphere?

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Old Jan 13, 2007, 06:38 AM #21 of 4284
Even once you've gotten the chest with the Zodiac Spear in Henne and start yelling out loud jumping for joy (to yourself since no one else gives a shit) you'll most likely realize how much time you've wasted in your life trying to get that spear. Oh well

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Jan 13, 2007, 08:28 PM #22 of 4284
The Helm and Armor increase multiple hits well enough. I put the Genji shit on Penelo, and she usually combos 3-5 hits every 3 swings she does with the Masamune (she holds the Masamune like, well, a teenage girl too, barely being able to hold it - she looks P-A-T-H-E-T-I-C).
Penelo looks sexy with any 2-Handed weapon in my book! But, you're right about Genji Gloves. It averages to about like 3 Hits but that's still good. The highest I've seen with Vaan was 8 Hits with Genji Gloves & Masamune but that was really rare.

Spoiler:
But I would like to see Reddas with the Genji Gloves. That bitch averages like 7 Hits per fight! He is ridiculously an insane combo giver! Reddas + Wyrmhero + Genji Gloves = PCP addict


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Old Jan 14, 2007, 08:03 PM #23 of 4284
I finally defeated Zodiark! Why the fuck does he have to be such a bitch when he's about to die. Doing all those cheap immunity spells. Oh well, I Scathed his ass to death. Thank goodness.

Oh and I finally found the Brave Suit in a chest WITHOUT Diamond Armlet. So I guess there are two chests that spawn them. One near the Save Crystal and one in the Special Charter Shaft zone near Zodiark.

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Old Jan 14, 2007, 09:53 PM #24 of 4284
Actually, you could conceivably get Larsa at level 99 if you were at said level when you obtained him.
LOL. Amalia at level 99 in Garamsythe Waterway. Is that possible?

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Old Jan 14, 2007, 10:40 PM #25 of 4284
Yes, but you'd have to be fucking insane. BTW, how the hell do I get the Larvae Eater to spawn at Waystone XIV without reapers?
I have know idea cause the Reapers come whether Larva Eater is there or not, but if you really really really want that chain, the only way is to force those Reapers to do Dimensional Rift on you.

Oh, and when Larva Eater spawns and you leave the zone, Larva Eater might be gone the next time you re-visit that zone. So never leave once Larva Eater spawns just in case.

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