[Movie] LOST

Originally Posted by Aardark

Look, dude, have a cup of chillax.

Can you please make that your custom title under that particular avatar? Just a humble request.

Oh, Lost, right. Reruns, yaarg!

Jam it back in, in the dark.

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Within that hueg clusterfuck of the fan deciphered lite bright wall, I'm wondering if the dates at the bottom aren't a big giveaway.

"4.08.00. 8.15.01 01.06.06
Complete Shutdown in Effect"

It's not a certainty, but very likely I think that the January 6th, 2006 shutdown pinpoints the timeframe of events, putting an end to any theories of significant time passing from the present. The last people on Earth after doomsday five years from now theories floating around can end now.

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It's not like there's a cure for death, is there?

I dunno, Jack's dad was strollin' around the brush early first season.

I liked tonight's episode a lot. I am interested in where the plot is actually going but what mainly attracted me to the show was the character development and motivation. That's been going downhill recently, but Rose and Bernard's backstory and it's relevance to the island events was pulled off quite well, I thought.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

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Claire is Jack's sister? What.

No. It's far worse than that. Kate may be his half sister is what the episode alluded to, I think, according to others here. I must of missed the one that featured Kate's mom so I didn't pick up on that myself.

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Best episode since awhile, possibly of the season. Locke's reaction to the tape, man, Terry O'Quinn entirely overshadows everyone else on the show. Great performance on his part.

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LOST itself is a psychological experiment on its audience.

Sir, you are right on the ball with this. What I particularly liked about the episode was the character's somewhat addressing what the audience must be thinking. We've been getting crushed under the weight and slapped in the face lately with Hanso and psych experiments and explanations that are tangibly connected to logic. The audience knows it can't be that cut and dry and Eko's speech was a wink to them. Notes and surveillance and studies, sure, but dream visions and the dead rising? This is why I'm not so hinged on what questions are answered each week. The mystery in and of itself is not what draws me to this show, but the conflicting nature of the shrouded truth and how not only the characters but the viewers as well react to that.

I was speaking idiomatically.

I thought the dramatic elements of the finale were done very well. It was a very enjoyable episode to watch. But. We were promised answers. Nothing at all was answered.

We still don't really know what happens when the button is not pressed. Yes, big magnet, but no repeat of "the incident" to speak of. Once again, things were not allowed to progress to it's worst point. On that same note, the failsafe isn't all too clear either. It's assumed that the whole thing's an explosion, but, come on. There are a few different reasons why that just doesn't make sense.

Was the white light the beginning of another incident or the neutralizing effects of the failsafe? Are the effects of the failsafe permanent, and if so, how?

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It was boring. Handled wrong. It was okay, but as a premier, eh. This should of been the second episode of the season. There should of been something bigger and more mysterious between Jack's character focus on misdirected determination. The beginning of the episode had the right idea. Most of the episode could been from the others' perspective and flashbacks. Covers how the group is taken from point A to B and offers a peek at possible reasons why these people are doing what they're doing and how they ended up in the situation.

I mean, Jack's stubborn, I wasn't waiting all summer to have that told from me. The biggest thing taken from this episode is that Mr. Friendly is gay.

And how long was the running time on this episode? The amount of ads seemed stupid.

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Did anyone pick up on the ultrasound scans, she said it looked like a woman in her 70's, then the guy turned round and said that she is 26. Does anyone of the island match this description?

Most likely it was nothing, just an example given to the viewer to help understand what she specializes in and why they want her.

But if they were talking about anyone specifically, they were talking about Sun.

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How could they have been talking about Claire or Sun when this was a good three years prior to either of them being on the island?

This is Lost, I fail to see your point. Libby gave Desmond the boat to get there. Castaways are caught passing through the flashbacks of others every other episode. You ask a how question and decide for it to be over that. How the hell does a guy win the lottery with a string of numbers used as a code to punch into a computer to dissipate a electromagnetic charge on a remote island where scientific experiments on humans take place, people see the dead, there's a cognitive wisp of black smoke running around killing people, a island that our mental patient multi millionaire himself will end up crash landing on? That might be a better inquiry than how could the character on the island who was infertile before she got there could possibly ever have the pictures of a shriveled up womb in another character's flashback. Shit, that's just going too far!

Like I said, I don't think it was supposed to be a clue or sign to anyone. But if you want to throw theories around, I don't know how old Sun's character is, but 29 to 30 or older doesn't seem out of the question. There's never a time frame for flashbacks, unless they're events leading directly up to the plane taking off in Australia, so, yeah, you have a lot of wiggle room to think of which events could of taken place near each other. If it was her, that would show evidence of the castaways being cased before they stepped foot on the plane.

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Um, unless i missed something, i'm fairly certain that it was established that Sun has always been able to have children, it was Jin who was the problem. The docter just said it was Sun so that Jin wouldn't get pissed off, and tell Sun's father, only to have Sun's dad give the doctor the what for.

Ah, I see. I missed that episode last season, so I had just assumed from what had been inferred.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Really? Well, there's Libby being in the same mental institute as Hurly, Jack's dad drinking with Sawyer and being on a mission with Ana Lucia, the already mentioned Lizzy/Desmond connection. Sayid and the American commander who ended up as the original man in the hatch before Desmond arrived. I'm sure more as well.

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Ah, okay. Yeah, to my knowledge, this was the first full blown others flashback episode. I've really been waiting for them to get to the back story of some of them, hopefully one for Ben isn't too far off.

Originally Posted by Sass

Alex is Danielle's daughter....and Ben's? Is Ben Danielle's husband? The one who "caught the virus" and died? Interesting. I dunno if it's a lie or not.

I was just thinking about this when I remembered that Danielle's net trap was what caught Ben in the first place and that she lead Jack, Locke and co. to him where she proceeded to shoot him with a bow and arrow when he tried to run. They had a discussion about whether or not he was an Other. So, if Ben was Alex's biological father, she would of recognized him. He must be the adoptive father after they kidnapped her from Danielle. The question is whether or not Alex knows that.

Minda: Okay, I didn't mean to come off like an asshole, I apologize.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

I thought this past episode was really good, with the glaring exception of the ring shop woman. Uhg. Hello new loose end never to be tied up, you can wait in here with the others.

Otherwise, what's going on with Desmond is pretty much clear to me. By his own description of it, he's not jumping back and forth from past to present. Before he woke up, his life flashed before his eyes, he experienced weirdo backwards deja vu because he was aware, somewhat, of his current reality. After he came to, these flashes didn't stop. It seems to me he basically became aware of his own fate.

It may of come in an odd package, but it was the sort of really good character focus that we haven't seen yet this season, the sort of thing that made a lot of season two tolerable for me while many complained. They can plod all they want to if they can manage to maintain poignant and impactful character development like this. Not to mention Desmond has been the most interesting character from the moment he was introduced, continues to be so, and any focus on him can never be a bad thing.

As for Charlie, good riddance! As soon as they gave him dream visions and he embraced the role of an outcast, he's become totally worthless. They probably should of done this before he came back into everyone's good graces for little to no reason.

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The writers and producers of this show ought to let this episode serve as an example. Jack is boring. Kate is boring. There isn't chemistry between they're characters or acting and their stories have been exhausted. They weren't too thrilling in the first place. Locke is interesting. His motives certainly stand apart from everyone else. Ben is interesting. Clearly untrustworthy to everyone, yet he still works with manipulating people regardless.

Jack and Kate's scenes completely bogged down everything great about this episode. Ben and Locke's scenes were as good as this show has ever been. There was a real air of mystery behind what each character knows and the standoff of their dialog instead of the usual frustration of characters just not communicating to stretch out whatever storyline.

They've already given half the season practically to Jack, Kate, and Sawyer. Let's shelve that triangle for awhile, how bout it, and stick with these two for a bit.

Oh, and let Charlie fall into some quicksand or something already.

I was speaking idiomatically.

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Or maybe they're whats left of Dharma?

Ben's group did have a submarine in their possession and Juliet knew of the Looking Glass. Chances that they aren't associated with "the natives" are slim.

Was hoping Dharma shark would make another appearance.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by Tritoch

I don't know, I thought season 2 was much, much better. I saw it all on a friend's burned DVDs though, so I didn't have to deal with all the breaks I heard they took between new episodes.

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The finale was pretty good, although I wasn't crazy about the very end. It was an interesting twist, but it makes me worry about how season 4 will go. Honestly I was kind of hoping that Ben was right and they'd all have to make a run for it.

The only real disappointment about this episode was Charlie's death though. There was no reason at all for him to lock himself in that room and drown. None. If they're going to kill off one of the best characters then they should have his death at least make sense. Penny's statement didn't even prove anything. Is a (theoretically) high-ranking person supposed to know the first names of every helicopter pilot on every freighter?

Oh, and Hurly hitting that guy with the bus was the best moment all season. I couldn't stop laughing at that.

Charlie closed the door not necessarily to sacrifice himself, but the timing between Penny appearing on screen, Desmond seeing it, and Mikhail pulling the pin was perfect. His thought process was that Desmond wasn't going to let Charlie keep him out of that room and he had no time to explain. Shutting the door from the inside was the only way.

The second the episode started and Jack had that beard, I had a lingering thought throughout the episode that this was NOT a flashback. But, nah, they wouldn't do that would they? Reveal if they'd get off the island or not? I'm not buying any off this alternate reality stuff. What's I think is going to happen is we'll see the character's off the island and the flashbacks are going to be to the island, at least for the beginning of season four.

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I still contest that when an explosion is imminent and a friend is running towards it for a reason that he's going to allow nothing to get in his way, Charlie's actions made sense. No idea why he didn't try to swim out the port window though, that's the part that gets me. He Didn't even need to surface, he could of just swam around back under the way they came in.

Eye patch dude's reasoning, I must admit, was a little more of a stretch, but weren't the both of them armed after they subdued the three others down there? If it's his job to ensure to radio signal stays jammed, assuming he's some sort of immortal or he's just super resilient and after surviving all that shit he knows a grenade will kill him but he's willing to kamikaze. To sneak out of view and attempt to flood them both isn't the most headscratching thing on earth. A lot to swallow, though.

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