Ergo Proxy

I had a thread following the progress of this anime a while back.

Anyway... Now that I've seen the first episode I can say that my expectations were more than exceeded. The story is as concealed as possible and the animation is top notch. As if that wasn't enough, Det. Lil Meier is one assertive and sexy figure; that alone is good enough to keep me watching this.

I can't wait until episode 2.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Yggdrasil

...Lil (or Lir w/e floats your boat) reminds me of Evanescence.

I noticed... Let's never bring this up again. OK?

There's nowhere I can't reach.

I see that most are already kind of griping about how slowly this anime is developing. I understand where this is coming from though; the story is VERY underdeveloped at this point and the plot already seems to be spread too thin over so much area...

I'm hoping these assumptions will ring false in the future because the potential for story, plot and character development are already laid out in plain view. Now it only has to HAPPEN.

How ya doing, buddy?

Oh my god, you lucky fucks... I can't even get this damn episode 2 to download quickly enough!

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Is there a group that's specifically dedicated to sub this yet?

This is really the only thing I hate about pre-licensed properties... We all get screwed in the end... :/

I was speaking idiomatically.

Goddamnit! This is getting REALLY good. I swear this show is becoming like those quarter-booth stripper joints, only I run out of quarters and I'm left blue-balled everytime.

I WANT MOAR!

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

I'm still waiting for those subtitles for episode 3. I'm fuckin' jonesin' man!

I NEED MY FIX!

FELIPE NO

I feel like a junkie who just intravenously absorbed that sweet, sweet elixir of death into this soul....

Thanks

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

I just watched Ep. 4

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I'm sorry guys... I still have yet to figure out what the "talking statues" symbolize. I mean, are they supposed to be the "highest power"?

Jam it back in, in the dark.

I stopped keeping up with this after Ep. 4 due mainly to time issues. When I wasn't dicking around here on my off hours I was out doing other things. Today I took the day off to watch the Mexico vs. Angola match and when the rest of the day got boring, I began and just finished watching the last 6 episodes back to back.

I WANT MORE!

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I'm still not seeing the significance of the Proxies themselves in the storyline. Are they all tied in with a different element or are they angels of their domain and hence why they speak of humans as lower lifeforms?

The story develops so slowly but it's like biting into a multi-flavored cake with this one. Each layer reveals a new twist and a new (if I may be allowed a small nod to the series here) reson d'etre.

MOAR!

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by B4-Hunter

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Yeah it's something like that. Each proxy was or IS living in certain area trying to control everything around and hunt if there is a need for it. For now there ware two couples Ergo & Monad and Kazukisu & Senekisu. In episode 12 we have seen another Proxy type monster but he was created I think... haven't seen subbed version yet...

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I wonder what's gonna go down with Monad, but Ergo seems to be filling the role quite nicely, I must say. As for the behemoth Proxy that just showed up, I have no idea what his purpose is yet, but hopefully Iggy will figure that one out. After all, he's being sent back to the homeland.

I'm starting to get the feeling that Real (or Lil, as I knew her before) is playing a somewhat more sinister role than she leads on. I also think her name must have a "royal" entendre attached to it, but this is just speculation on my behalf and has no relevance to the story whatsoever.

Carry on .

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

I just watched episodes 13 and 14.

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That Millais angle in ep. 14 was fucking genius. Real in the river with the Ophelia pose was surreal. Although I gotta say, the episode confused me from top to bottom until I realized that they were dealing with a shapeshifter.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Originally Posted by Kamui

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It is another proxy. He is revealed when te first time he/she dragged Vincent into the lake showinh him what happened to the inhabitants of the Dome. What Vincent would have become had he stayed in his former self.

That wasn't what confused me...

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What confused me was how there were 2 Vincents and 2 Reals at once. Even after he announced himself and what had happened in the city I was still kind of muddled on this. It was only at the end of the episode that Vincent was talking to himself that he said "that proxy can change form" that it hit me. THAT MOTHERFUCKER WAS A SHAPESHIFTER!

Seriously... I feel so stupid sometimes.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Kamui

I know the beginning of that so called song comes from Xenosaga Episode I, although used very shortly.

No it's not. I know that it sounds like that children's choir in the "Song of the Nephilim" but it's not it.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by Kabukibear

I guess I'm kinda dumb, but I can only find as far back as ep. 8-9 on that site. can someone link to ep1?

http://www.mininova.org/search/ergo+proxy/name

It really IS amazing what typing in "ergo proxy" in that "search" box can do. Free your mind... mannnn~

FELIPE NO

FINALLY! A light at the end of the tunnel. I gotta say though, as much as this series was a chore to watch because of the incosistency of the episodes, it was a really awesome little series.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

So much condensed into these last 2 episodes it was almost overwhelming.

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Monad returning as the angel of life (At least that's what I gather from this) was a fucking awesome twist.

I gotta say though... In retrospect, this story was pretty short and could have been condensed into a 13-episode run like Hellsing was. There were a ton of filler episodes that were tangents of the story as opposed to focused on the overall aspect of "life after god"; even if that was an awesome concept to begin with.

Can't complain though, it was an awesome series even if it had its boring stretches. At least it's not like Bleach.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Foshi

What's all this filler talk about? Yeah, there were some episodes that the story didn't progress much in but I think every episode had a point.

Yeah, but don't you think they could have driven their point without the drawn-out length? Episodes like "Who Wants To Be On Jeopardy...", "Ophelia" and "Eternal Smile" were entertaining, yes. But they served no direct purpose to the main storyline.

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Besides, who doesn't like to get to know the characters better? One of the best episodes was the one when they were stuck on the boat for a month and Real, Vince, and Pino bonded.

See, I have no problem with getting to know the MAIN characters. I also think that "Busy Doing Nothing" was one of the best episodes in the series, but this goes back to what I said about the story. The events in this could easily have been interpolated into another episode and all would have been well.

Like I said, Hellsing had an INCREDIBLE run at 13 episodes and kicked some serious ass and kept the story at a great rate. This followed the same arc but drew it out over 23 episodes. I guess I do see where you guys are coming from too; the series was still awesome. I just think that focusing the strength of the story into a more dense story arc would have made an already winning story a goddamn classic.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by hexXie

What do you mean "Who wants to be on Jeopardy" was of no use??
It gave you foreshadowing to Proxy One!!! And in Ophelia, Vincent found out (and the viewer) A LOT more about his Proxy side!

I didn't say they were of no use. I just said that all the foreshadowing and character development could have been done in any episodes. I'm not saying the whole series wasn't entertaining, I'm just saying...

Originally Posted by Me?

I just think that focusing the strength of the story into a more dense story arc would have made an already winning story a goddamn classic.

ooooooh! =o

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.