HAY GUYS

Paco · Local time: Sep 19, 2007, 06:36 PM

It's like, Kerry's an adult, right? He doesn't need to be protected from scary words, right? Why not give this guy a minute out of your day if he's so passionate about it?

This is kind of my question too. On the other hand, I definitely think both parties are at fault here. Yes, he got needlessly, over-the-top loud and belligerent and, in turn, security used an obscene amount of force to silence.

My only question about this is: Had he been allowed his couple of minutes of stage time to ask his questions, would he have gotten belligerently out of hand thus causing such a scene in the first place? I want to say yes but I kind of get the feeling that the answer is no.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Paco · Local time: Sep 19, 2007, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by CloudNine

Sure, the first amendment, he had every right to say what he wanted. However, it does not allow you to be belligerent and disruptive to public order. Which was clearly what this guy was trying to. The police had every right to try and remove him from the auditorium and restrain him.

I don't argue that he had a right to be belligerent and disruptive but, when he is given the microphone and soapbox for an alloted time, it doesn't necessarily make it right for someone to clip him in the middle of that time for the simple fact that his questions are more direct than people are used to.

Then again, he did have a history of being an attention whore so I can't possibly overlook that. But now they have a volatile situation on their hands when the easiest way to have dealt with this situation would have been to bring out his history in the future and used that angle to discredit him and let this die quietly.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Paco · Local time: Sep 19, 2007, 08:37 PM

That changes a lot of things then as I can no longer defend him for this as he was clearly out to make a scene and security, indeed, had every motive to attempt to remove him from the premises. Their harsh methods are still questionable though, but it's not like that part of the story was ever argued against here.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Paco · Local time: Sep 19, 2007, 11:09 PM

Originally Posted by CloudNine

What exactly would you sue for?

Damages to his ego, obviously. :/

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Paco · Local time: Sep 19, 2007, 11:46 PM

Originally Posted by Karasu

I can see you are bringing nothing to this discussion, but rather try and insult and belittle me [lol 'kid'] because you don't agree with my view.

No, man. I really don't think you understand what oppression really is. Why else would you use that ever-so-witty comparison of school campus rent-a-cops to... oh... THE GERMAN GESTAPO?

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Why dont stop so we dont have this thread become personal ok? We don't need a flame war, thank you. Bye.

That's great advice. I would advise you to take it.

I was speaking idiomatically.