Virginia Tech Shooting: At least 33 Fatalities

Wait... You're in school there?

I, myself, just got a phone call from one of my friends who's a professor at Academy of Arts in Los Angeles; his brother teaches at VSU. So far the general consensus seems to be 22 dead and about 32 wounded. No word yet on the who the gunman was but if history has taught me anything, Halo 2 will be blamed for this.

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Originally Posted by Spike

While they couldn't have known something like this would have happened, they should have at least told everyone not to come to class with a shooter that was still loose. I'm sure it was hectic and there were a lot of things going on, but I think they didn't handle this too well.

Yeah, they're getting grilled about this on the press conference right now. I don't think they had too much they could have done but still the decision to lock down students ONCE they arrived at their classrooms was probably the best thing they could have done given the situation.

I don't even know what to think of this: Protocol was followed down to a "t" and already the press is already throwing accusations as if the university's president and police chief were at fault for any of this.

Guys... The blame here lies solely on Bawl's and Counter Strike, OK?

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Originally Posted by Spike

Students and faculty knew NOTHING of the incident even though the police had no idea where the suspect was.

I mean no offense to those I'm debating with, but please understand my anger because I was heading for the building where the shooting took place. I also had friends on the 3rd floor of that building (shooting was on the second floor). I really think they should have warned us early.

When you put it that way I guess it's easy to see where you're coming from but then I have to reiterate RR's point: They couldn't have predicted that he'd come back for second helpings and probably didn't want to send the entire campus into a panic if there was no need for it.

But then again... Widespread panic is exactly what happened. This is just a horrible situation for all involved. I don't even want to THINK about what I'd do if I were in Steger's shoes. :/

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Yeah, about that Thompson interview... I still think it's all hearsay until I see a transcript or hear him say it himself. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to dip that fucking scam opportunist in boiling oil but I'd like to at least get a reliable confirmation of his belligerence before (rightfully) accusing him.

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Originally Posted by pompadork

The dudes apparent LJ ~

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Oh fuck me that's classic! Look at all those rifles! I also love how he has the inscription the night before with the wedding vows:

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...to have and to hold from this day forward, for better or for worse, for richer or for poorer? Will you love her, honor her, comfort her, and keep her in sickness and in health; forsaking all others, be true to her until death do you part?

I do~

I was speaking idiomatically.

Well, if that's him it's a fucked up tragedy. But from what I can tell he loved Ann Coulter, was vehemently opposed to Muslim terrorists and by GOD did he love his girlfriend. This motherfucker needed a lobotomy not a gun license.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

You know... I read through that kids entries and it's all this pseudo-intellectual, holier-than-thou rantings about love and existentialism and his girlfriend (who was a somewhat attractive Asian girl) reaping the wind of his vengeance.

I don't think I need to spell this out for you guys, but if you live close to Yama or go to school with him and you suspect he's a gun-nut, you better save your schoolmates/neighbors/loved ones by reporting him to the proper authorities a.s.-fucking-a.p.!

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Originally Posted by Bradylama

I dunno, Yama ever say he's a Libertarian?

No but it's always the QUIET ONES you gotta keep your eye on.

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Dateline is doing a special on this right now, if anyone cares to watch.

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Originally Posted by Furby

I heard about this earlier at work... All i got to say about this is... I'm gonna sound selffish but I'm glad that it didn't happen to me or anyone that i know...

Hey man... I don't know anyone who it happened to either but do we have to act like unsympathetic assholes here? I'm just saying, buddy.

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As much as I want to agree with you there, if you don't think his upbringing had anything to do with how this whole thing turned out you're as naive as the next Jack Thompson knob-shiner.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Well, I feared this would happen but I knew it was kind of inevitable, given the situation.

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"We hope that this incident won't create discrimination and prejudice against people of South Korean or Asian origin," the Hankyoreh newspaper said in an editorial.

A sense of despair prevailed among the South Korean public.

"I'm too shameful that I'm a South Korean," an Internet user with the ID "iknijmik" wrote on the country's top Web portal site, Naver among hundreds of messages on the issue. "As a South Korean, I feel apologetic to the Virginia Tech victims."

Kim Min-kyung, a South Korean student at Virginia Tech reached by telephone from Seoul, said there were about 500 Koreans at the school, including Korean-Americans. She said she had never met Cho. She said South Korean students feared retaliation and were gathering in groups.

Source article.

I was watching CNN during breakfast this morning and there was a small segment about this 19 year old student Kim Min-Kyung (a native of South Korea) who was actually packing up and leaving the campus for fear of retaliation from other students. That's the partial story.

Now... I don't know what any of these students are going through right now and I can understand a raging need to look for something or someone to pin some blame on, but this is just not the order of operations, people. It's just really disheartening to see that at a time when these students are supposed to be either mourning or in each other's moral and emotional support, some are already blindly stirring animosity.

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Originally Posted by Unas

Do ya have a source for this?

This was made public earlier this morning but apparently the entirety of the video discs will not be released until the F.B.I. officially releases it. Lots of photos of himself with his pistols and combat knives and even a nice little shot of a table full of hollow point bullets. I actually want to read that whole "manifesto" document he sent NBC.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Yeah, come to think of it, when you see photos of a KOREAN man and you're looking DOWN THE BARREL OF A 9MM PISTOL, naturally the first thing that comes to mind is, "Hey, look. It's that dancing guy from that nerd movie!"

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by Denicalis

When he said "my brothers and sister that you fuck," was he referring to asianophiles? Because I think it would be pretty damn classy if part of his reasoning was all the white guys fucking asian women.

Oh, so Yama's existence partially caused all this? Fuckin' a, guys! Now we got one more reason to ban that accidental cumshot.

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They're actually right on MSNBC. The clips are scattered throughout all their news segments but I believe that all the video that's officially been released is all there.

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Originally Posted by Newbie1234

Society outcast him for being different, and being the person he was, he simply didn't know any better.

I guess the point is, I think we are all to blame for these kinds of events.

I don't buy that hackneyed sob story for one fucking second. I haven't gone on a shooting rampage myself even though, you know, I was picked on in school too. I also grew up poor as fuck, learned how to fire a gun by the age of 9, I didn't have my "cognac and vodka" or a "Mercedes-Benz" to wallow in my "debaucheries" with and my parents even managed to smack me around a couple times when I got out of line.

However... My parents, as overly religious as they are, managed to teach me to know right from wrong and to respect people's opinions and lives even when I disagreed with the way they carried on.

Can you guess which one of these valuable life lessons was probably missing from your homeboy's life?

You only get one shot at getting this one right, chief.

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Originally Posted by soapy

Yes people are crazy, and some crazy people won't go shooting up others but some will. But would he have done the same thing if people reached out to him? If he had friends would he have done the same?

You know, that's a very good point and, chances are, the answer is no. Friends are people you talk to when you have a problem and who you can trust with said problems. If he was socially inept (which, by the look of things, he really was) this becomes a much harder problem to address but it doesn't make it an excuse to shrivel up and stop trying to socialize and then turn around and blame society as a whole for HIS complete lack of social skills or use it as a RADICAL RATIONALIZATION to MURDER these people or their peers.

This was the same argument that was used with Harris and Klebold back in '99 and the answer is still the same: If you can't/refuse to socialize that's fine. No hard feelings. Scene kids aren't your cup of tea. People react to different situations in different ways and I respect that. But don't come spraying down your peers with semi-automatic weapons because you perceived they wouldn't share sandbox space.

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We aren't who we are because of just one factor. We make decisions based on our life events.

That's another great point. We make decisions based on our life events. If life happens to have handed us a shitty hand, we make decisions on how to play that hand. Either you fold and cash out or you throw your chips back on the table and see what kind of hand you get next. You don't flip the table over and put a .22 through every one of the other players' dome. That's too much old west cowboy for my tastes .

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