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Straight edge or not?
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Old Aug 6, 2006, 07:08 PM Local time: Aug 6, 2006, 05:08 PM #1 of 92
Originally Posted by Hydelloon
The problem is every straight edge I've met has tried to tell me to stop. In fact, every straight edge I've met also carries this false sense of "superiority" because they are clean and untainted.
I've had the same problem with these "straight-edge" kids myself, but I wouldn't say that every one of them is like this.

In my few run-ins with a few straight-edge people, it's been my distinct displeasure arguing with them for one reason: They felt the need to castigate me for being a drunk and (at least back then) a habitual pot smoker. It's one thing to not enjoy drinking and recreational drug use but don't expect me to adopt your lifestyle just because YOU enjoy it. A lot of vegans I've met are also the same way but, as I said before and since it's off-topic, it's really unfair to group the extremists with the casual lifestyle followers and I'll lay that to rest.

I will admit though; I joke about this at, say, a party when I offer someone a drink and they decline only to hear me say, "Come ON! It's just a drink! Don't be such a pussy!" or something of the sort; but the truth is if someone doesn't enjoy drinking or decides to abstain from any intoxicants... Good. More power to them. If they decline a drink on the basis that they just don't enjoy alcohol then that's exactly what they do and forcing one upon them is, in my eyes, no different than say forcing yourself on someone sexually, otherwise known as rape.

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Old Aug 6, 2006, 10:23 PM Local time: Aug 6, 2006, 08:23 PM #2 of 92
Originally Posted by a lurker
No, there is a world of difference between rape and peer pressure.
Maybe so, but to me it's all a matter of degree. I've seen people literally say, "Fuck you. You're drinking this!" and pour a shot down someone's throat when they declined a drink. That's the kind of "forcing" I mean. You wouldn't make a Muslim to eat bacon by force, would you? Sure we can pressure someone all we want but until the pressure is forcibly applied, then yes it's still only peer pressure.

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Old Aug 10, 2006, 08:55 PM Local time: Aug 10, 2006, 06:55 PM #3 of 92
Originally Posted by вяоκєи.
I usually drink for one reason, to get drunk. Now I know thats not really the right reason and all, but hey, it's what I do.
Actually... That's pretty much why a lot of us do it. It's not that you get drunk, it's how good your intoxicants are.

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