2006-2007 NFL Season Discussion

Originally Posted by bighunt

geez.... poor Bucs.

I was more depressed and disappointed with this one with the simple fact that I was there in the best seats I had ever sat in. I was also standing practically the entire game and cheering my ass off (also losing my voice in the process). While it was fun, the ending to that just leaves a very bad taste in one's mouth.

As per Simms, he's out now for at least 6 weeks, possibly the whole season. We have Shaun King trying out right now (Wow, I can't even put that into perspective), and we will have Tommy Maddox and a few others in town over the next few days for tryouts. Should be interesting.

The Lions...well I feel your pain sir. It sucks quite indeed.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Lemme do my best interpretation of a player on the Buccaneer defense...

"HIGH LEIK LEMME FORGTE HOW TOO TACKEL!"

Goddamn, at least Gradkowski looked good. As for the Steelers, I actually just got back from a cruise to Cozumel today, and I met some of the coolest fuckin' Steelers fans ever. One of em, which I had a pretty long conversation with, looked just like Bill Cowher. Not that it means anything, but just reinforces the fact that I have yet to meet a bad Steelers fans.

/suckthesteelersballs

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I'll be more convinced that Chicago can hang around with the major contenders after they play one. Sorry if I'm not convinced the Bills and J.P. Losman are a high-powered offense. The only offense or team for that matter with any merit to them that they've played is the Seahawks, and they were minus Shaun Alexander (which is a huge difference). They won't play a team worth a mention until the Giants in about a month, and even they're a shakey team.

Looking at Da Bears schedule, they should win homefield-advantage throughout the playoffs. If they don't, then they won't make it far, because their schedule looks like a breeze.

How ya doing, buddy?

Jamal has had alot of problems since that 2000 yard year he put up. He was in trouble with the law (I believe with possession of cocaine and selling of it -- though he never did the stuff aparently). He's got a strong offensive line in front of him, so I think its more of a mix of him getting older and possibly having some mental instability.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Who dey? Who dey? Who dey think gonna beat them Bengals!?

THE BUCCANEERS!

That was truely a great game. What an amazing finish. Bring on the Eagles.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Jesus fuckin' Christ, how do you fuck a twenty-point lead up when Rex Grossman is your opposing quarterback? Congrats to the Cardinals, they're heritage of losing continues.

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I know this doesn't add to any conversation, but who cares.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

E: Wanna see a Donovan McNabb turn into an ice sculpture? Check it out! http://youtube.com/watch?v=3vnNdsQRMWs
That image of McNabb and Reid will forever be etched into my mind. I do, however, love the fact that I listened to the radio during that kick and heard Gene Deckerhoff and Hardy Nickerson go completely insane.

Holy
fucking
shit.

I was still in a complete state of shock after he made it. When Westbrooke broke 5 tackles and ran 50 yards I was cussing up a storm. My brother said he heard me from the sidewalk outside our house. Then, by some dumb-luck miracle, Matt Bryant makes the kick off his life and I lose my head; Jumping up and down and screaming at the top of my lungs "NO WAY, NO FUCKING WAY!"

What a goddamn game. Blow a 17 point lead then just by the hair on your ass walk away with a win.

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Originally Posted by DragoonKain

That was a crazy game. 3rd loss this season that the Eagles handed to the other team on a silver platter. We need to cut down on the damn mistakes.

Indeed. The Eagles outplayed us. The obvious defining factor is that McNabb thought Ronde Barber was playing for Philly for some odd reason. 4 turnovers vs. 0 turnovers. Great game all-around. It was interesting (and for Bucs fans, stomach-churning), however, to see that whole game change in the matter of about 17 minutes.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

This pertains to Madden NFL 2007 rather than just NFL discussion, but I'd like to just show it to everyone, because I laughed my ass off on this one.

Quote:

Posted: 10/11/2006 by: Juan Turlington
An image of excellence.
To: John Madden
CC: Electronic Arts Sports
From: Ethan Albright
Re: Being the worst rated player on Madden ‘07

Hi, John, my name is Ethan Albright. I play line for the Washington Redskins. You probably already knew that, so I’ll continue. I am writing in regards to the overall player rating of 53 that I have received in Madden NFL Football 2007. I feel that this is fucking bullshit and you should kiss my mother-fucking ass. Ahmed Carroll was rated a 78 and the Packers just cut his ass on a Tuesday morning after his performance in a Monday night game. That is pretty terrible. The worst part is that his overall rating was sniffing 80.

You know what, John? Two can play this game. I rate you a fucking 12. I rate you a fucking 12 in Ethan Albright Football 2000-ever… except for in the category of ball-licking. That is where I will spot you a 98 rating. You will receive this score because I will never give your blubbery ass a 99 in any category. Take that, pencil-dick. Go do Al Micheals or something. Boom.

It’s also pretty wonderful that my awareness rating was 59. You make it sound like I wake up in the morning, helplessly shit and piss myself, then lose three of my teeth before I discover that I am trying to eat a rock for breakfast. Fuck, John, I understand you saying that I am slow and lacking athleticism, but a rating like this pretty much labels me as retarded. Rod “He Hate Me” Smart has a 52 in this category. Electronic Arts is saying that seven rating points separate me and the breathing embodiment of the perfect oxymoron. Rod Smart struggled to arrange words in sentence form. Cave men had better hold of the English language. The only actions that separate point values of ignorance at this embarrassing level are things like using your own toothbrush to wipe your ass. I basically edged out Rod by my lack of shit teeth. If I take a night school class, could you bump me up to a 60?

I guess I just can’t fathom the fact that I am the absolute worst player rated out of the entire NFL. Fuck, man, there are some shitty guys out there. Amongst everyone, I was rated the absolute worst.

I have received the impression that you feel that I am lacking in the agility category. I should consider a walk through my living room where I don’t crash through a wall or kick over furniture a resounding success. My agility rating on your game is 33. It makes it sound like I just topple over if I start walking too fast. Ted Washington is rated a 40 in agility. He is listed at 365 pounds. If Ted Washington tied a white lady up and made her wear a metal bikini, he’d look just like Jabba the Hut.

John, you are such a fucking dick. I also noticed that my kick return rating was a 0. I was rated a fucking zero? So you feel that I shouldn’t even receive a 10, or even a 5? You are pretty much saying that I couldn’t even fall forward on a ball kicked in my direction. I would just stand there and let the ball bounce off of my fucking face. Fuck that, John, I returned an onside kick 6 yards in 2002. You should have just slapped a - 4 on me and had the EA staff ambush me with paintball guns.

Finally, I would like to comment on an unlikely topic, my pass coverage ratings. I see that I am a better at man-to-man coverage (31) than zone (21). Fuck me sideways with a lunchbox. Where did these scores even come from? How much time is spent coming up with the pass coverage ratings of offensive lineman? Can I have that job? Let’s see here, I think that Orlando Pace would be slightly better at jumping intermediate routes than Larry Allen. While I’m at it, I can assign the passing ratings for offensive lineman as well. I can use mine as a guide.

I was rated with a throwing power of 17 and accuracy of 16. Orlando Pace has a 22 power and 17 accuracy rating. Did someone at EA really put time into figuring out that Orlando Pace edges out Ethan Albright in both throwing power and accuracy? I will challenge him any day. My horrible passer ratings are of greatest misfortune to my son, Red Beard Jr. The poor boy is not only hideously ugly and covered by freakishly large freckles. He also has to suffer through playing catch with me and my senile-elderly-woman-type passer ratings. A session of tossing the pigskin usually consists of me missing my son by thirty yards in sporadic directions. I led him in front of a fire truck once and my wife kicked my ass. This is because of my 76 toughness rating. Yes, a 76 is far better than the other ratings, but I’m a fucking lineman, damn it. NFL Linemen are considered to be synonymous with toughness. According to your game, I am a retarded, uncoordinated, pussy-ass fuckwad that can’t fall on a kickoff, throw, or spell. I am, however, slightly better at manning up on a receiver than dropping into zone coverage. You lose your mind more and more each year, old man.

Fuck you, John. Please expect to find red pubes in various meals you consume for the rest of your life. If you fuck with Ethan Albright, you call down the thunder.

Rot in Hell,

Ethan Albright

Anyway, we got some big games this week, who do you guys have taking home the wins?

Baltimore/New Orleans
Seattle/KC
Falcons/Bengals
Jacksonville/Philly
Rams/Chargers
Broncos/Colts
Dallas/Carolina

Should be an awesome week in the NFL.

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Well, so it seems the writing is on the wall more or less for Simeon Rice here. Simms will apparently be resigned (according to the paper this morning), but I have some serious doubts about his actual future here. Simeon Rice and Brian Kelly will probably both gone next season. I do have next season to look forward to (top 10 draft pick, 4 picks on the first day -- up to 30 million under the cap).

On the topic of the NFL in general, I think the best team is either the Chargers or the Ravens (despite that loss to the Bengals). It'll be interesting to see come playoff time if teams like the Colts or Bears in particular will actually be able to compete and win when it really counts.

Oh yeah, Capo, Wojo...you's goin down this week.

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Yeah its on NFL Network. The interesting thing is though is that most of the cable providers that carry the NFLN are not paying more money for the primetime games. So, unless you're in the local area, you won't get to see em, even if you have the network. And, the great thing is, they failed to inform us sooner (which is bullshit).

I'd rather lose this weekend. I see us at 5-11 at years end. It'll be interesting to see if any heads roll around here. Unless Gradkowski shows improvement, and Gruden is still around, I could see a top end QB draft pick here in Tampa Bay.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Now that my computer is finally fixed, I can re-join the discussion.

I think the Chiefs, with Larry Johnson and company, will take out Peyton and the Colts this weekend. Unless Indianapolis' run defense actually, oh I don't know, holds LJ to a significantly low margin (say, less than 100), I'll give the Colts the edge.

As per the Jets/Pats game. I think we're in for a really good game with two rivals clashing. I like the Pats in this one, but it'll take a last second field goal to hold down the Jets.

I also like the Eagles to stave off the G-men and the the Seahawks to take care of the Cowboys. Whoever called a Ravens/Saint Superbowl, I couldn't agree with you more.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Pennington wins comeback player of the year.

Spoiler:

Pennington wins Comeback Player of the Year


NFL.com wire reports



NEW YORK (Jan. 4, 2007) -- One rotator cuff injury often is enough to ruin a premier athlete's career. Chad Pennington overcame two in two years to win The Associated Press NFL Comeback Player of the Year award.

The New York Jets had become too accustomed to seeing Pennington leave the field with a damaged right shoulder. After the 2004 season and again midway through 2005, he underwent surgery to repair his right rotator cuff.

There's was so much doubt about Pennington returning to form that the Jets had four quarterbacks in training camp last summer, including a second-round draft pick.

So all the seven-year veteran did was lead the Jets to a surprising 10-6 record and a wild-card berth one season after they went 4-12 -- most of it with him sidelined -- and changed coaches. Pennington's precise execution of a short passing game made Laveranues Coles and Jerricho Cotchery into 1,000-yard receivers and offset a mediocre running game.

Not surprisingly, Pennington didn't see winning the award as an individual honor.

"The organization has been great in providing me with all kinds of special resources to get back healthy and play at a high level," he said. "My teammates have been behind me since Day 1. For us to be able to put it together out on the field would mean a lot ... it's been such a team effort."

Pennington's efforts earned him 27 votes in balloting by a nationwide panel of 50 sports writers and broadcasters who cover the NFL. He finished far ahead of two other quarterbacks, Drew Brees of New Orleans (8 1/2) and Carson Palmer of Cincinnati (5 1/2).

"He never reinvented himself," Coles said of Pennington, who passed for a career-best 3,352 yards and finished second in the AFC with a 95.7 passer rating. "You all (in the media) were the ones who left him for dead. I'm pretty sure he didn't leave himself for dead or he wouldn't be in this situation. And I definitely didn't. He never went anywhere."

Well, actually Pennington went under the knife twice, and because he's never had a particularly strong arm, his return to prominence was highly questioned. But through rehab and meetings, he clearly had mastered the offense of new coach Eric Mangini and coordinator Brian Schottenheimer by early August.

And there never was any doubt he would beat out the other three QBs in camp once Pennington began throwing as accurately as ever.

When Pennington was hit hard or sacked, he bounced up and went right back to work. Most notably against Houston, he took a huge hit and stayed down because he had the breath knocked out of him. Well aware of the hushed crowd, Pennington pumped his fist as he walked off the field, assuring the fans he and his right arm were fine.

"Chad is a tough guy," veteran guard Pete Kendall said. "I think anybody who stands back there is a tough guy, it's just that some guys unfortunately have been injured more than others. But that doesn't necessarily have anything to do with toughness.

"When you talk about toughness, you have to talk about mental toughness as much as, or moreso than physical toughness. Chad is way up there; he's a mentally tough guy. To be quarterback in this market, with the ups and downs that comes along with playing quarterback, and to go through what he has gone through, then come back and still play well, you have to be a tough guy to do that."

Cleveland tight end Kellen Winslow received five votes, followed by two Eagles: QB Jeff Garcia with two, RB Correll Buckhalter with one.

Denver receiver Javon Walker, New Orleans RB Deuce McAllister and Tennessee RB Travis Henry each got one vote.

Pennington is the fifth quarterback to win the award in its nine years; Brees won it in 2004. He is the first Jet to win.

Last year's recipients were New England linebacker Tedy Bruschi and Carolina receiver Steve Smith.

And it looks like Bill Cowher will announce is retirement today at 1pm.

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God it feels good to see Romo fuck things up like that. After all I've heard from Cowboy fans on how awesome he is, it was only fitting he was the one who screwed up.

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McNair has at least gotten to a superbowl, more than Manning can say to this point. If Manning throws 3 interceptions again, or makes too many mistakes, he won't be fortunate enough to be playing Trent Green who decided to play it too safe and avoid his receivers all day (granted, there were drops, but that doesn't excuse his performance). McNair has plenty of playoff experience, and he doesn't have to put it all on his shoulders. It'll be a tight game, but I like the Ravens in this one.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by The Dopefish

Gostkowski is not nearly as reliable as #4 was.

To be honest, I doubt anyone ever will be able to fill his shoes.

Ryuu, the AFC games have me pumped as well. I'm looking forward to the Ravens D vs. Manning matchup. Should be extremely fun to watch. The Chargers/Pats should be interesting, particularly because Rivers will be making his first playoff start which could mean trouble for the Chargers.

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Originally Posted by Wojo

Wow Manning actually made it past the second round of the playoffs even though he has played like crap and needed his defense to pull him out of five turnovers?

Ah, that sounds better Wojo. Fixed.

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Goddamn this Colts v. Pats is epic.

How ya doing, buddy?

So much I could say about Tony Dungy after what he did for this franchise and this city. God I was so happy when that pass was picked. Tony, with all his class and respect, will be able to play for a title.

I was speaking idiomatically.