Drakengard 2

Originally Posted by SOLDIER

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Everything you said, I second.

Drakengard 2 is a great sequel.
I still hold Drakengard 1 in higher regard, however. This is why:

-Menu selection of any verse (level / FMV / in-game story scene) in any chapter.
-Much darker storyline.
-5 endings instead of just 3.
-Soundtrack one of the most brilliantly insane I've ever heard from a game.

So, ultimately, I feel that:
D1 is a 10/10
D2 is a 9/10

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Originally Posted by SOLDIER

On that note, I was always confused by this one cutscene in the first game where Arioch is doing "something" to the corpse of a dead child, but you never see what it is, and the shocked reactions of the other characters don't help confirm things. So I read that the japanese version spelled it out clearer; she was eating the corpse. :eek:

I thought that was pretty clear in the US version. Didn't she constantly talk about her "hunger" or whatever?

I'm assuming her obsession was heightened due to her giving up her womb as a pact sacrifice. It's probably symbolic that she wanted a child in her, one way or another.

Plus, it's especially relevant/ironic in one of the extra endings:

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...where she gets devoured by the demon babies.

Drakengard brought an awesome philosophical scenario to the table in the idea of pact-sacrifices. In Drakengard 2, I was always on the look-out to find out who gave up what and how it related to their personality. Unfortunately, the pact-partnerships in D2 aren't as cool as in D1.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

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I'm going to base my answers off of the first playthrough.

What exactly did Gismor make a pact with?
They don't exactly say, I'm guessing some sort of demon in exchange for his humanity/limbs.

Who are Nowe's real parents? A few people are saying it's Inuart and Furiae, but I just can't see that happening... It would mean that both of them survived since Nowe was born two years after the war.
Someone had an image from the official art book with Inuart, Furiae, and Legna standing behind a young Nowe. It is my belief that I+F are Nowe's parents, if not in a biological sense, then in a "Inuart put himself and Furiae's dead body into the bone casket/seed of resurrection and out came Nowe." I also believe that Legna is Inuart's black dragon from D1. If you look at the evolved form of Legna with the hook tail, it looks pretty much exactly like the black dragon.

Dragons created humans to defeat the gods (which I'm assuming are the Watchers)? Seems kind of silly since humans are so much weaker than dragons.
I think their plan was to use the "new breed" of human in combination with the Watcher's bone casket to create a creature (Nowe) that could destroy the gods.

Does it ever say why Manah's mother hated her so much? I remember in the first game Seere talking about how their mother used to beat the crap out of Manah. Never said why though.
I forget, let's just say Manah's mother hated little girls and leave it at that. That's what made Manah seek out the Watchers for companionship.

Why did Verdelet alter the seal? The history on Caim's sword mentions how that was a betrayal by Verdelet, and Caim killed him for it.
I'm assuming Verdelet was too naive about the painful sacrifice needed to keep the seals intact and the demon world out of our world.

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Here ya go.

The image is called "Birth and Awakening."
IMAGE LINK, SPOILERS

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Ending 3 from D1? D2 disregards all endings except for the first, remember. Those were just possible outcomes.

Did you pay attention during the Book of Seeds in the Dragon Tomb in D2? That's where it is mentioned that the Black Dragon led the "weak man" to use the bone casket to create the "new breed" with the "blind woman who held a forbidden love and gave herself to the gods". Or something along those lines.

Black Dragon = Inuart's Dragon = Legna
weak man = Inuart
blind woman = Furiae

Check some of the threads on the gamefaqs.com forum for this game, there they discuss the relationships between the characters.

Also, level up some of the D1 characters' weapons in D2 to see what happened to everyone during the 18 year break.

Awesome Drakengard 1 artwork here -> http://www.oritsuru.com/games/DoD/artwork.php

and here (you have to register for this one, though)
http://www.kawaiidream.net/categorie...8ad0&l=english

I was speaking idiomatically.

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Dragons change shape all the time, they evolve to fit the situation. Legna is regarded as a "blue" dragon in the beginning, but by the end, he is repeated mentioned to be a "black" dragon ("Show Angelus the power of the Black Dragon" or somesuch was a mission description). His hook tail looks JUST like a form of Inuart's dragon. http://www.rpgfan.com/pics/dod/art2.html

Come on, it's pretty obvious by now.

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Originally Posted by SOLDIER

But the thing is,

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If Inuart is dead, his dragon must be dead as well, since they're pact partners. Unless it turns out he's still alive...

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1. Dragons can break pacts. Angelus did that in one of the extra endings in D1 when she faught Caim.
2. Inuart may not be dead, he may just be reformed with Furiae into Nowe through the use of the bone casket, which allowed for the birth of the new breed and Nowe's ability to talk to the dragon without being a pact partner.

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I said dragons for a reason. There are two very important species. Gods (the Watchers), and Dragons. You may not be able to break a pact with a golem or fairy, but Dragons are powerful beings, able to evolve at will, destroy the earth, challenge gods, etc...
I agree that there is a bit of speculation involved in Drakengard's storyline, but there are simple connections between the two games that I feel the designers wanted us to pick up on. Nowe isn't just any man, he is highly connected to the previous game's main characters. Legna isn't just any dragon, he is the black arch-rival to Angelus (even his name is Angel backwards). Little details like how Inuart's sword, when equipped during the Caim battle, does a lot more damage to Caim than your other weapons, make this game still about the characters from D1.

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Originally Posted by SOLDIER

I wanted to add one more thing about the dragon-pact debate that I just recalled.

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In ending A, before Angelus becomes the seal, she could've ended the pact with Caim, giving him back his voice. Otherwise, why keep the pact between them if she was going to be sealed? Also, don't forget near the beginning, when she lectures Caim about their lives both being in danger if he dies. It just feels to me that if dragons could end their pacts at any time, they wouldn't devote so much time to protecting their human partners.

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About this whole pact-partner breaking thing, there's evidence both ways, but it's not necessary for it to be true/false for Legna to be Inuart's black dragon.

There were the two possibilities, that either Legna broke his pact with Inuart or that Inuart was merged with Furiae and became Nowe.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Generic Badass

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Wouldn't Nowe have died after killing Legna, then?

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I'm not saying the pact stayed with Nowe. It's obvious that he gained certain powers from becoming a New Breed. If anything, the merging in the bone casket probably altered Legna as well, hence the new look. The pact was able to be changed.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Dr. Uzuki

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To avoid confusion, this above comment was merged into this thread.

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Originally Posted by a_dictator

Has anyone of you ever managed to get 1,000 hits in a row? Will you automatically win the game then?

I got over a 2,000 combo at the level outside of a tower where there's just group upon group of soldiers. The key is using a weapon that does barely any damage (such as the Nobuyoshi on level 3), and to use your magic attack (it counts as a combo point even if you don't hit anything) if you're not going to make it in time to the next group.

At each 1,000 points, a bunch of money splashes out.

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