Neon Genesis Evangelion

OMG GOD... EoE they fucked up so bad in english, the added some sound effects, and stuff. if i remeber correctly, there was a gunshot that moved to a slap scene, and the slap was what was heard, and they went and put a gunshot sound in there, because it wasnt 'cool enought' or some shit... >.< it aggrivates me to NO end.... >.< but as for Eva, one of the many series, i hold dear to my heart. first series i owned all of... and i will be getting the platinum box, as soon as it goes on sale @ rightstuf.com

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I love to think of it as what happens right after the last TV episode. It's so delightfully doom-ish.

NO NO NO NONO! Anno himself said that the movie is an EXACT repersentation of what goes on in the last episodes of the series, just one is in the physical world, and one is in the metaphysical plain.... >.< thank you... sorry...i hate it when people thing they are different.

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Originally Posted by SouthJag

Did they actually call in the VAs to redo the whole series? Or did they just edit the existing voices into 5.1?

Both, the format in which the audio that make that DVDs from can be easlyer changed into 5.1 from 2.0, its just back in the day, it was much more difficult for them to do. Some of the scenes did have to be redubbed for the purpuses of, getting the verbage more correct, and small details like that.(I accualy asked that question at a ADV panel, got A Tree of Palme for it too )

Originally Posted by Spatula

On second thought, Fuck, I love EOE. I don't know why now. But even though it's a rather bizzare way to end the series, it somehow just falls all into place. In the original ending, (okay everyone probably knows this by now but what the hell), Shinji made the decision in his mind, but in EOE, we see the physical manifestations of his decision to be himself and not part of the LCL instrumentality project. So I guess everyone else just wanted to be in the "in group". Bleh. Okay. Yeah I did point out above that much of the cast is laid to waste which did kind of suck for my favorite characters, but perhaps the real point is that such an earth-shattering-ground-breaking process that transforms the world doesn't choose "favorites" to survive, besidse Shinji and Asuka.

"I feel terrible"

Its been a LONG time, and i dont happen to have it in my dorm. so i will state it the best i can.

Spoiler:

but in the movie, Rei says to Shinji after he has made his decision, that basicly those who can imagen their shape again, can come back. I wish i had the quote. this is why asuka looks they way she does. remeber she was turn to shreds, but the mind that went into über Rei imagined her body as we see in the final scene. Anybody can come back in any form they desire to, if they want to come back at all, basicly...and YES he makes the same decistion in the TV series and the movie, just pay very close attention

I will be watching this over spring break, so i might be able to fill you in, more than you want to know after that...its just been bout 2 years since i sat and watched all of it through....Im starting to sound like the eva monkey here ^^;;

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Originally Posted by Yuna

And I'd like opinion of you guys on something, I have the Chinese DVD version of Evangelion, the quality is fairly good, but recently was released the Platinum Box of Evangelion, and it isn't as much expensive as I expected it ot be, so I'm thinking on buying it. It's a bit pricy for me 'cause I don't live in USA, I would just like to ask for those of you who have it if it is worth it ?
I heard it has 4 extras stuff, and I'd like to hear about hte quality of image and sound ....

GO FOR IT! The images where massivly cleaned up and it is in 5.1 jap and english
DeepdiscountDVD or check at best buy i thin it was like 48+tax there(cant find it online)...It comes with alot of special features, and i mean ALOT! it comes with the series, and like 5 hours of bonus stuff(now i believe each dvd has ~5 mins of the op/ed cuts, in that 5 hours) but anyway, and ep 21-24 are the DIRECTOR'S CUT EDITION! you can watch it normal or with the director's cut animation if i do recall correctly. and for those who have not seen the directos cuts let me tell you O.O WATCH IT NOW!!!! there's some stuff that you missed that will pretty much blow your mind...well i thought so anyway...some of the scenes where in Death_True^2(the US Death and Rebirth release), but not all of them...

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Originally Posted by xen0phobia

It's all spoiler!

Spoiler:

but in the movie, Rei says to Shinji after he has made his decision, that basicly those who can imagen their shape again, can come back. I wish i had the quote. this is why asuka looks they way she does. remeber she was turn to shreds, but the mind that went into über Rei imagined her body as we see in the final scene. Anybody can come back in any form they desire to, if they want to come back at all, basicly...and YES he makes the same decistion in the TV series and the movie, just pay very close attention

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Wait i disagree. I think the movie and TV series have exactly oposite endings. In the TV series he accepts the human instrumentality project but in the movie he repects it.... If this isn't correct then i'm really confused.

OH oh oh...i will be watching the series again, starting tomorrow URAH!

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and will tell you every little detail about why it is exactly the same...i will even try to get some screen shots of where the places over-lap. I argued about this with the eva monkey, and convinced him (he saw it the same way you did) that the endings are the same...

now that probly dont need a spoiler, for that last part but meh....

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Originally Posted by Lukage

You see the show and you'll figure it out.

ok people:

NOW, i will show you...when the explotion happens she sees Rei, infact all of them see Rei. Rei is the being that will be guiding them to their life inside of über Rei. YES, Misato does see Rei before being blown up, YES, Misato does also explode into 2 diffrent pieces when she dies...just FYI!...now, if my damn copy of PowerDVD will freaking work right, i will beable to screenshot it for yall to see...
Rei http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ap-1228335.png
Body parts http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ap-1227482.png

Now, please talk about something with more relevance than that....

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by David4516

I have a question about Asuka in EoE:

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if she dies, how is it that she comes back at the end of the movie? Does that mean that anyone can come back, even if they were already dead? Could Kaji come back for example?

EoE was cool but sometimes it makes my head hurt...

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Originally Posted by aku

Its been a LONG time, and i dont happen to have it in my dorm. so i will state it the best i can.

Spoiler:

but in the movie, Rei says to Shinji after he has made his decision, that basicly those who can imagen their shape again, can come back. I wish i had the quote. this is why asuka looks they way she does. remeber she was turn to shreds, but the mind that went into über Rei imagined her body as we see in the final scene. Anybody can come back in any form they desire to, if they want to come back at all, basicly...and YES he makes the same decistion in the TV series and the movie, just pay very close attention

I will be watching this over spring break, so i might be able to fill you in, more than you want to know after that...its just been bout 2 years since i sat and watched all of it through....Im starting to sound like the eva monkey here ^^;;

before asking questions please make sure the topic was addressed beforehand, and to answer the 2nd question

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in theory yes, but he has probably already found a happy place

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by David4516

I did, and my question wasn't already adressed.

Spoiler:

that quote in your last post only explained why she was all bandaged up when she came back, not why she was able to come back even though she was already dead

read very carefully:

Rei says to Shinji after he has made his decision, that basicly those who can imagen their shape again, can come back...

take note, that that is the FIRST thing i said in preview spoiler

FELIPE NO

Originally Posted by MrSatan

I got a question, as you may know, the evangelion renewal that came in japan was a remaster of the tv series and movies, and it appear as the platinum collection, but the movies are not in the collection, i think that have to do something with manga, that have the rights, anyone knows if the patinum movie editions will appear on america? i want to buy the movies, but i prefer the platinum over the old release.

From what i heard, is the movies where not remasted, just rereleased, so basicly they are exactly the same, there is 5.1 and 6.1 Japanese on the US release. and the animation for the movies was much better than the series(well EoE and Rebirth anyway) and didnt need the cleaning up. I dont think it changed any where made in the movies, to tell you the truth, and i dont believe i saw that Manga is doing anything with it, but who knows, the box that they put of with Death and Rebirth and EoE might be the upgraded versions of the movies. i dont plan on buying the box, untill after i have spend my 150 on the damb box for the planinum collection buying all 7 dvd individually(Damn ADV for trying to cheat me by cutting out all the extras!!!!)

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by Lukage

7? I thought its 8. Anyways, they do have a perfect collection out with all the platinum.

Perfect Collection

Run time: 650
Platinum Thin Collection

Run time: 650
all 7 Platinum DVDs indiviualy
Run time: 825 (according to Robert's Anime Corner Store)

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Originally Posted by Rei no Otaku

Ah Eva, my favorite show. The Rei in my user name comes from Rei Ayanami. I am scarily obsessed with her... I can't even imagine how much I've spent on Rei merchandise. Got everything from Rei window blinds to a Unit 00 snowboard.

I guess I can see why people wouldn't like Shinji, but personally I thought he was fine. I know I'd have been in much worse condition had I gone through all that at 14. Cut the kid a little slack.

Series/movie ending:

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I believe they're the same until the very last bit. At the very end of the TV series Shinji accepts Instrumentality. While in the movie he rejects it. up until then though, it's the same thing. In the TV series there's even some quick scenes from the movie. Like Misato dead against the wall, Ritsuko floating in the LCL lake, and Asuka in Unit 02 at the bottom of the lake.

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OK!...Now, through out the last few episodes shinji goes into a state of, "Can I, Shinji exist outside of being an Eva piolit?" and the scene in ep 26 that shows Shinji being normal(i have to say one of the most brilliant scenes in the show), after this the who thing on stage is him going about saying that there can he CAN existe out side of being an eva piolit, there for finding a since of self in all of the selflessness around him. thus rejecting it, because the reason he wanted all to be one, was because he thought that he couldnt be himself, after he stopped being an eva piolit.

ahhhhhhhhhh! this pains, me, trying to think about it and not having seen it in over a year, but i will be more informed after this week, because i am watching it over again...
oh and fyi, nice to see you again "fan of Rei"

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Originally Posted by Lukage

I believe that is all that there is. 8 Volumes of the manga, 8 (first box set) DVDs. From what I've heard, they go together and follow one another's storyline quite well.

ummmmmm...not really, ok, there are 9, and 9 ends probly the equivelent in of the series of ep 22? but there is no real equivalent, because

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Kaworushowes up before Asuka loses it, its been ~10 months since i read 9, but i dont think the ep 19-20 thing happend Unit one eating the S2 Enginer or what ever, that are alot of things that are just compeletly diffirent

There arnt near as many angels to this point in the manga as their have been in the series, and

Spoiler:

Shinji HATES Kaworu, and i mean HATES!

OH, and apperently there where recently MORE DONE! Vol 10 is on the way...i hope....

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yes, that was what i was trying to infussize on my last post ...i would recommend paying the 9.99 all 9 times, Soon to be 10(crosses fingers) and buy it, if not check it out from your awsome local librery

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Originally Posted by Rei no Otaku

In Eva's case the manga did not come before the anime. They actually came out around the same time. While the anime was handled by Hideaki Anno, the manga is done by Sadamoto, the character designer. It's kind of the same plot, but it goes in completely different directions with it.

I much prefer the anime, I didn't care for the manga myself.

Yeah, because Rei doesnt seem to play as much of a role in the manga as she does in the anime...I like them both, the manga gets more into the minds of the charaters, where as the anime kinda let you guess abit more what the charaters might be thinking at some points

I was speaking idiomatically.

Volume 10 is out in Japan! that means that its only a matter of time before its here!

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by Chris Dark

... How can we be to page 5 and have not mentioned Ideon yet?

Hell, give Shinji an afro and orange hair and we're all set.

By the way, before I forget, I got to page 3 before wanting to beat aku. I think that's an accomplishment.

Really? it took you that long? it takes most people 5 seconds. I just have seen the show, afew too many times, and have had too many arguements with people that have done the same

FELIPE NO

Originally Posted by LeHah

Yeah, because I hate things that make me think.

I don't understand people's distaste towards the final episodes. It's not an esoteric thing - it's just a matter of paying attention to it. Too many people want to be catered to and have shit spelled out for them and laid at their feet. Why is it so hard to leave the story with a self-interpreting ending? Thats much more satisfactory than being utterly literal after having throw-away pesudo-christian symbolism and dramatic machina events that are there for nothing more than directorial shock value.

It's not like Eva took a major chance in being a little more obtuse than most stories - for every dumbass who hates the end, theres two dumbasses who say "No one understands the series like I do".

Agreed, that last 2 episodes are what make Evangelion Evangelion. i mean honestly, the way it ended was what made me love it inthe first place(and watch it 5 times through the week i got the box set). There is no real way to say you understand what its saying, because its a draw your own concultion on exactly what its saying. At the end, it says in the show it self, that the problem with the truth is that a truth for one person doesnt have to be a truth for another, meaning, 2 people looking at the same thing can see 2 different things, it is called perspective. There is no one answer to the end, it is a door to open up your mind to a new way of thinking. This is what they go on about for like 10 mins in the final episode.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

for the last time, they have the same endings, the tv and movies that is, if you watch and listen very closely you will figure it out...just read some of my earlyer posts...they explain it better...and the fact that Anno himself said they where the same, kinda makes my point valid

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Diamond Comics Previews

2006-05-17 16:12:10

New DVD Set to Include Many ExtrasAccording to Diamond, ADV will release a Neon Genesis Evangelion 10th Anniversarry Box Set, with a deluxe case and a "plethora of commemorative items".

Although details are still unclear about all the extras, we've confirmed the set will include a limited edition jacket (an original item not available anywhere else), a copy of one of the Evangelion manga (ADV released Evangelion: Angelic Days, Viz released Neon Genesis Evangelion (manga)) and many video extras. More details about other extras are expected soon.

The set will retail for $249.98 and is scheduled for release on August 22, 2006.

Sorry i didnt post this a while back...been really bussy(working 75 hours a week)...just thought it was somthing every eva fan should know about, but im sure you have known about if for a while huh Rei

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Originally Posted by Lukage

I recall the Instrumentality ending (TV) and the MegaRei (Movie) being different possible endings. At least, that's how I like to view it. TV = Happy Ending, Movie = Continuation of the mode of the series (DEPRESSION)

I thought i already went over this... >.< überRei was more along the lines of Seeles plan and not Gendo's. They both have the same ending according to Anno. The TV was a Metaphysical and the Movies where Physical...so the TV ending is what takes place inside überRei, and what is going on in these screwed up peoples minds....If you pay attentino you can see that

Trying to clear up things again...:

BOTH TIMES he lets instrumentality start. and both of them he said, FUCK THIS SHIT, and makes it stop. Instrumentlity, the combining of all souls in one intity(überRei) to be their arc. The whole scene which Shinji and Rei going through eachother in the 'sea of lcl' the AT Field existing stuff, was asking shinji if he wanted instrumentality to coninuse, and he said no, he wants the AT field to exist again. he does the same thing in the TV ending, he figures out that there is a him out side of being an Eva, he thought that he couldnt exist with out it, and therefor once Eva was no longer needed he was no longer needed and that if he could stay in the eva forever he would exist forever. So once he realized that he would exist past Eva he said there is no need to do this, and THAT is why they are congragulating him. and as i have said afew times already...in the movie Rei says that as long as you can imagine yourself you will exist, and that is why a VERY dead Asuka was able to come back to life, she had those bandages because that is how she saw herself after what happend....but on why he tried to choke her...im pretty sure its just as she says, hes just fucked up...

Blah...this is annoying...im trying to justify somthing i havnt seen in...3 months now...

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Originally Posted by Rei no Otaku

They both would have ended up with Lilith forming. I'm pretty sure that was a part of both their plans. I can assume no Lilith, means no 3rd Impact whatsoever.

Yes, but its still went more the way seele wanted it to go from the start. they started it, rather than Gendo.

Originally Posted by Rei no Otaku

I'd like to see where Anno says both endings are exactly the same.

I WISH I COULD FIND THE DAMN ARRTICAL AGAIN!...and exact same, and same out come are 2 different things.

Originally Posted by Rei no Otaku

It's actually what happens inside Shinji's head. Well the last episode is anyway.

Inside überRei is no diffirent from being inside anybodys head because they have all undger gone instrumentality.

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