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Pregnant teen needs help! (The sequel)
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Old Dec 12, 2007, 10:45 PM Local time: Dec 12, 2007, 10:45 PM #1 of 40
This entire story sounds like a Britney Spears sensationalism headline, where the whole point it to laugh and dismiss the lowest man on the totem pole.

What I see in that story is a girl who has messed her life up to a point of no return. I haven't read the entire thing, but it looks like it's a downhill roller coaster that hopefully doesn't end in an explosion. While I agree that you would want to help her, there is really no helping some people. I think Sass' treatment is right on the mark; some people just need a good wake up call. Then we can be nice and Traveler-esque, when she actually has an ear open and a mirror to her pathetic existance.

Jam it back in, in the dark.
It turns out that today is opposite day, so all of what you have said is true, so you should probably just go.
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Old Dec 13, 2007, 01:08 PM Local time: Dec 13, 2007, 01:08 PM #2 of 40
Well, I'm just hoping that she herself doesn't think her life is pathetic and damaged to the point of no return, because it's not. And once you don't see the point anymore, you're not going to work hard to improve things, because everything's hopeless, anyway She hasn't got a job, granted, and probably not much of an education, either. But that doesn't mean her life is ruined. She might actually come to appreciate her children at one point, if she had some sort of direction in life. For npw,her options are restricted, she has to be grateful if she gets any kind of job, and has to figure out what to do with her kids while she goes to work, which isn't easy, either.

Sass, I wasn't suggesting that mum does everything for her and sends her to work each day. The point is that the girl is supposed to reach a state where she can take care of herself, not to patronise her entirely. I don't know what kind of advice her family have given her. I'm sure they have done their best, and it sounds like they have been incredibly supportive. The thing is that any "do this"/"do that" advice usually doesn't work that well, because people need to feel that they are in control. "You have to make a decision, here are some options" may work better. THen again, it may not, but at least it's a new approach. It can't hurt to try it. Although she definitely may be past that point, and she may be stubborn and not respond to it. In this case, there's nothing else you can do, but at least you've ensured that she knows some options if you have to distance yourself from her.
Is not seeing a point in moving forward any worse than what she's at now? She needs a reboot before you can install any new software on that computer (which would be beingamom101.exe). What I'm saying is that before we try to be compassionate, you need to make sure that it's worth bothering, and open her ear.

You need to give her a chance to see how low she is now so she can lift herself higher. The first step is admitting you have a problem.

There's nowhere I can't reach.
It turns out that today is opposite day, so all of what you have said is true, so you should probably just go.
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