[General Discussion] Sonic the Hedgehog - Mediocre Madness!!!

Wow, now I've got to get involved in this. Okay, I can't give you all a definite answer for Sonic Riders yet since I haven't played it enough, but so far I like it...with the Japanese voices. Ever since 4 kids took over the voicing department, I had to switch over to Japanese voices. I miss Ryan Drummond, Lani Manella and all the originals.

Seriously, Sonic's conversion to 3D was successful in the Adventure series. Sonic Heroes...while I didn't like the whole team play idea, the game and the music were pretty awesome. Story lacked a bit, I'll admit, but it was still good overall (I would've like to have seen Super Tails and Hyper Knuckles in the final battle too).

Sonic Advance was great, I think it almost recaptured the old Genesis games. I had a problem with Sonic Advance 2 where to get to the special stages, you had to collect 7 special rings in a specific location. I almost didn't beat the game because of that, but I read some FAQs and eventually got to the final story. Sonic Advance 3...well, I stopped playing it after a while because I couldn't figure out how to even get to the special stages.

Sonic Rush was pretty cool, though I was they would've used someone else other than Blaze...maybe Shadow, Knuckles or Tails...maybe Amy. However, the Special Stages weren't that difficult to find and the story overall was decent. Hopefully, that's the last we've seen of Blaze.

Shadow the Hedgehog...I see sites like Gamespot and IGN giving it low scores because you use guns and it's darker. News flash: SHADOW the Hedgehog is the title of the game, not Sonic. Of course it's going to be darker, and although the guns fit Shadow's character, I don't think it was a good idea...who needs guns when you have Chaos Control, Chaos Blast, and Chaos Spear? I'll agree, the story could've been better...and although the game is called Shadow the Hedgehog, I think Sonic could've been in the final battle with Shadow...and why not? That's what happened in Sonic Adventure 2. Oh, and after I savored all the damns and hells that Sonic and Shadow said in English, I went to the Japanese voices. Why? Because the 4Kids voices for Sonic X suck.

I'm looking forward to Sonic next-gen for PS2/XBox and the exclusive one for Revolution. I also look forward to changing the voices to Japanese again...unless Ryan Drummond and the others come back. They should stick with what they did in the Adventure series, because that was working quite well for me.

Here's what I think they should do...keep the special stages easy to find, let them be difficult once they're in the special stage. Go back to the original VAs and tell 4Kids to go **** themselves (though it was Yuji Naka's idea to have the Sonic X VAs be the video game VAs, he should've done it the other way around). The gameplay should be like it was in the Adventure series with one or two characters per stage, no more than that. The music does not need any work, it's kept me entertained to no end. Keep the fishing out and maybe 3rd person shooters unless you're playing as Dr. Eggman. Do all of that, put in a good story, and that should be a good Sonic game.

Edit to GoldfishX: Riders is insane...and not in a bad way. You may want to rent it first before you try to buy it because it's definitely not for everyone. I'm still trying to get used to the controls...and as far as the tricks go, my thanks go out to SSX Tricky for helping me prepare for that.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by soniclover

I've heard that there are plans to make more Sonic Spinoffs, like sports games maybe...*sigh* Sonic's going the way of Mario, expect with lesser quality games....

I might be interested if they did a Sonic DDR. As for anything

else, well the Mario ones are good...so why not give it a shot?

Sonic did okay in Virtua Striker...the only thing I'd be

concerned about is if they made another Sonic Shuffle.

If they did, they might wanna come up with a different

system instead of cards.

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by soniclover

Mario did it, but Sonic games are nearly as good.

Is that so? I'm glad that we see eye to...nah, I know it's a typo. I hear what you're saying. All that needs to be looked at are Sonic R and Sonic Shuffle. They were ok at best, but they just didn't measure up to the Mario ones. That's probably why there weren't any sequels. Seriously, I bet I'd love Sonic Riders if I played it more and figured out the controls (damn you school).

As far as Sonic X goes, I hate the English version but I LOVE the Japanese version. It may seem kiddy and cute at times, but that's alright with me. I'm glad they made it...I was a bit disappointed with the Sonic OVA.

As to what Sin Ansem said...I somewhat agree. Growing up, I liked Sonic the way he was one the American cartoons and the Genesis games. Today, I liked him back in Adventure 2 and Heroes...until they did fired the voice cast without notice and hired those damn 4 Kids assholes. After watching the first season of Sonic X (subbed), I wanted to see a Sonic game that was more for teenagers and grown-ups...like cursing and stuff. Then I played Shadow the Hedgehog...I got what I wanted, the cussing. However, putting a gun in a hedgehog's hand and giving mission objectives that slow you down was a bad idea. The ratings that game got, were a bit harsh though. I felt they should have been higher...maybe 6/10.

Until I have a better understanding of what the next-gen Sonic game will be about, I think it looks cool. All I've seen so far in it is Sonic and...Super Sonic. I guess since they're still working on it, that's all we can see until E3.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.