[General Discussion] Shmups on the nextgen HDTV

You're a tad naive if you think old-school shmups will somehow live on in next-gen consoles (outside perhaps Live arcade in ugly filter mode). SNK has said they like to support the Wii as it's most welcoming for 2D from the three consoles.

As for TVs, you'd think flat screens would be ideal for turning for tate, but as far as I can tell, a good number of flats still shouldn't be turned, for whatever reasons. Best bet is to get one of those large flat computer monitors that carry a 90 degree sticker on them, at least you know you won't break them.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by devilmaycry

True, games (and players?) are getting fagier (is this a word?) by the minute with countless FPS and action 'games' being tossed everyday but as you said there's Live Arcade and we might get lucky, also Radiant Silvergun 3 was half announced to be in development for X360. Lets have some hope and vote with our wallets, that's what I do.


Fail to see how is Wii more welcoming for 2D games, I would like to see some API docs backing that up please

And I would like some evidence to back up your bullshit about Treasure ever even talking about developing for the 360.

I simply remember SNK Playmore USA president Ben Herman saying how 2D games are not suitable for PS3 and X360 and seeing as they announced their support for Wii and DS, it's a tad obvious what they favor.

Since it's so difficult to comprehend, consider it this way. The Wii is not pushed as a powerhouse of a console for the next age of game graphics, therefore it doesn't have specific technical requirements (720p minimum, full 3D graphics naturally, overuse of bloom, every single surface must be shiny) that need to be met before you're allowed to make games for it, unlike PS3. It's also cheaper to develop for, which is pretty ideal for a relatively small company lacking in huge megasellers.

No one is saying the Wii is the best platform for 2D games, but it's the most welcoming of the three.

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Originally Posted by devilmaycry

MS never said polygonal graphics are a requirement for game licences, nor they will since there's already a bunch of sprite based games on Live including new exclusive games (Castle Crashers).

And just how many 2D games have you seen on the 360 outside Live arcade minigames? If you think SNK or any of the bigger 2D arthouses are going to develop games for Live Arcade, you might as well ask them to start making them for PC as java games.

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Also if the console is weaker so will the games be no? I for one would like to see a 720p (or even a 1080p) version of Guilty Gear instead of yet another 480p release, and before you say it, no creating higher resolution sprites isn't more expensive, infact all sprites have always been way over 1080p during conception, they are then redrawn, scaled and optimized for lower resolutions, color gamuts and other hardware limitations.

As for the Wii being cheaper to develop... you get what you pay for

Sigh.

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Originally Posted by evilboris

For the record, SNK makes a fuckton of Java games for cellphones. And so do other big companies (Sega comes to mind).

I'm quite aware of this, but for a company to move to do java/flash games for say, browsers exclusively would be quite different. Live Arcade can't be that appealing for a company like SNK. And I mean that in the "Well hey, so we it won't make sense to waste money developing yet another new board to support the higher HD resolutions when we can do all our games for Live Arcade and sell them for $4 per two!" sense.

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