[:plant:] Official MUGEN Thread

Here's what I've managed to far with EVE:



The torrent you linked proved a terrific collection of characters and stages. Unfortunately for me it's nowhere near comprehensive enough, but it's a step in the right direction.

I actually did exactly what BIGWORM is suggesting here, took me a while to realize you could add empty spots.

Anyway, there's so much to do. I've played around with alternative system styles, such as the M.A.C.B.Z. style that comes with the torrent, but while the character select screens and fonts are really nice, I have too many characters to fit the screen as is, and I prefer the EVE style over that.

Similarly, the energy bars in the MACBZ look awful, not to mention the round announcer voice was obviously recorded by one of the makers =/

I'm keeping EVE style after all, but I'm going to need to do plenty of alterations. I'm actually pretty satisfied with the CVS2 style energy bars etc, but the Soul Calibur announcer and round choir have got to go. I have no idea if they can be easily removed and replaced, but I'm certainly going to try.
I'm also thinking of fiddling around with the EVE character selection screen, so that selections are a little bigger, I think that's relatively easy to try and do. I am never going to have so many characters as to fill the whole screen, so I might as well use the space for something more useful and pleasing on the eye.

Oh, and whoever that Mai_K character is, she's ridiculously overpowered. And I don't mean Devil Chun Li or Soul Gen overpowered, I mean god damn untouchable. I got her by random select for a Watch match and she'd just obliterate everything, not to mention the 130 hit combo she did on Robo Rock without him getting a single hit in =/



The collection has some real gems, though. Someone made a great 2D sprite of Orchid and she looks a heck of a lot better than in the SNES game. Not to mention the ULTRA COMBO voice samples are still there whenever she does a combo.

Another one I love is Ella there. I've no idea if she's actually from some game, but if she's an original, massive props to the maker. It's obvious she's Sadako from the Ringu movies, but her moves and entry animations take in almost every other possible horror movie gag and I love it. Her EX specials are awesome and the Psycho shower scene pastiche especially made me laugh.

EDIT:
Hahaha aw shit, just noticed the other torrent you found. I simply don't have room for that ;_;

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Originally Posted by BIGWORM

Any chance you could .rar up your char pack? How big is it? Wait, are those the chars that come with the torrent SOLDIER provided?

All my current chars are from this previous torrent SOLDIER found for me
http://www.mininova.org/tor/274128

The chars folder is about 2.6GB =x

I managed to make some room on my HD and downloading the 500 char torrent in order to check if there's anything interesting. I don't really need the whole thing since I already have a working MUGEN + EVE, so I'm just interested in the characters and stages + music, but alas, of course I have to get the whole thing first.

The biggest problem with the mininova torrent was that its select.def file was set for the MACBZ style character select screen (and even then it couldn't fit all the characters on screen, leaving many outside the window awkwardly), so I had to make a report of the rar folders in order to get a list of the character names in text and then copy pasted those into the EVE select.def.

Still, it could have been worse, I might have had to add them all individually =x

EDIT:
Oh, you're already downloading it, good. When it finishes, please let me know if it has actual complete sets of characters (for instance, all the characters for SFA3, or Darkstalkers, etc)

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I guess unless someone rerapidshares it, you can get the windows version from
http://unofficial-winmugen.jpn.org/

Though I'd actually recommend looking into that massive torrent that comes with EVE and all the characters, cause basic Mugen with only one character is such a depressing sight

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I can't for the life of me understand how you got it so fast, I'm currently getting 26kb/s 8kb/s max

So, can you give me some idea of the range of games involved? Is the collection more towards original/joke characters or characters from other fighting games? Any full sets? ;_;

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Well, I figured out how to change the announcer. The announcer's lines are in a file called fight.snd and your mugen is set to load it by default. Find another .snd file for a different announcer and you just have to edit the fight.def file and change the line

snd = fight.snd

with another .snd file you're going to use. Or replace the fight.snd file in the folder with another one. Either way you'll need to look up a .snd file with the announcer (as I sure as hell don't know how to make my own).

I'm currently using the announcer from JoJo's Bizarre Adventure and while he's not great (though admittedly hilarious), he's at least better than the choir
http://rotb.mgbr.net/zips/jojosoundpack.zip

You can also replace the fight sound effects with something else, which is the

common.snd = COMMON.SND

line. But I'm perfectly pleased with the ones in use. Now to alter that character selection screen.

I was speaking idiomatically.

I think they simply mean leaving comment lines with "CAPCOM", "SNK" and then adding the characters in the order you want manually. There's really nothing that you could tag so it'd sort them for you, unless there's some editing program that could do that. I just use notepad.

Speaking of notepad, after countless and countless retries and restarts:



Only to notice it won't fit even the characters I have right now, much less that ones I get later
For now, the ones at the very bottom shall remain "hidden" secret characters, until I comb through the char folder and throw out the really shitty and stupid characters (like that butt ugly dinosaur).

I really like this look though, maybe I could try somewhere in the middle in terms of mini portrait sizes. I still can't figure out why my selection cursor is still so small, but it's nothing serious.

I also realized Jojo's Bizarre Adventure never had separate rounds, you simply had two life bars, so there's no Round 2 announcements or further, just a "FIGHT". Better find those other announcers soon.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by Skexis

Anyone else have success with fixing the music? As much as I hate hearing some of the "battle" tracks that were chosen, the game isn't quite as interesting without something playing in the background.

I'd kill to hear some of these matches with Machinae Supremacy playing for BGM.

Not sure what you mean by "fixing" since I've only read about people having trouble with sound, while I've had no issues whatsoever. I was told if you have hardware acceleration for sound in windows, it sometimes causes trouble. I turned mine off just in case, but hadn't had issues before that (except one single time the loading music started skipping for me).

You can just add Machinae Supremacy mp3s in the sounds folder and set the theme for certain stages.

As for anything else with fixing the music:
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=40388.0



As for my mugen, here's where I am so far.



It's still a bit of a mess, I hadn't cleared out the empty spots as I haven't worked on it for a few days. I spent most of my weekend combing through the character roster and throwing out any and all crappy and ugly "original" characters and clumsy edits (Cyber Gouki, etc). There was one character that caused my game to crash when trying to load the title screen and I spent a few hours trying to figure out who it was, adding a single row of characters at a time to see where it might be.

Once I clear out the emptry spots in the roster, I'll try to arrange the characters, although the collection is still extremely random. I have about three SF3 chars and two SFA2 ones, so neither torrent is very good for anyone who wants a proper collection.

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Originally Posted by SOLDIER

Still can't find Spider-Man though.

I seem to have a Spider-man (probably MvC2) that came with either of the torrents I downloaded.



If you want him, I can send him to you.

As for the rest, I got a few links I hadn't noticed before from Skexis so I downloaded quite a few characters last night. Haven't extracted them or tested them out yet, I'll do that when I get back from work tonight.

My original dream was to get all these Capcom characters and match them up against all these SNK charas, but there is such a ridiculous amount of different KoF characters and versions of them out there, and most of them unavailable, it's too much effort for a full set. I'll just pick the annual versions I care about/can get and that'll be it. I'm only missing SF3 Ibuki and I'll pretty much be set.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Originally Posted by SOLDIER

Also, I have an EX Ibuki (almost a completely different move-set. annoying if you're a master of the original) if you want. I'm pretty sure I've seen the original tossed around though (check that site I linked).

Yeah, that's just it. The "archive" sites that list the characters all claim Ibuki is downloadable from this one site, but on that site she's in the WIP section, at 70% complete and no download.

And Roll worked fine for me. I did have that crashing issue with that one character I can't for the life of me remember right now. I think it was a boss from KoF. Either way, I had to go through adding one row of characters at a time till I spotted where the game crashes and then looked up the perpetrator.

BIGWORM, I'd think it's something to do with a dodgy stage. There can be quite a few duds in there that cause the issue. Does it do it in all stages or only certain ones?

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The trouble would of course be that the level 1's and 2's would post elsewhere till they had enough posts.

What we need is a server that filters based on the poster's intentions. If they joined the forums just to ask for help or to find shadowlinkchracter pls help thx..................... intending to never come back or at least until they need help with something else, then they'd just be denied of posts in the thread. Aah, technology, how limited you still are.

There hasn't been any proper discussion in this thread for ages and I think it's time we put it to sleep. Soldier put considerable effort into the opening post and his intentions were good. But since the mugen community is as uninviting as it is, every single reject from elsewhere started leaking here and alas, here's the result.

Either way, enough is enough. This thread is too big of a mess. A sequel can be made in the near future, but the rules must be tightened. The next thread will not be a help thread, as while we should welcome new members, this kind of stuff doesn't bring the kind of new members we need, this brings about info leeches, who are just as bad as regular download leeches.

There's nowhere I can't reach.