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Why are people so keen on gov't run healthcare again?
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Old May 13, 2009, 10:55 AM 2 1 #1 of 82
HOW CAN WE PAY FOR THIS

UM WE COULD RAISE TAXES ON THE OBSCENELY WEALTHY

WHAT, AND PUNISH THEM?!?!?

I'm not sure where the official line for "successful" is but crying about being "punished" if you make more than 100K after-tax does nothing to earn anybody's sympathy.

BUT THEN NO ONE WILL HAVE ANY MOTIVATION TO WORK HARD!!

Remember, kids; nobody works for any reason other than greed, the same way the only reason we aren't all murderers is because of Christian Ethics.

(It should be pointed out that 2037 is the year that 2007 babies (the largest baby boom since WW2) hit their prime earning years but let's panic anyway)

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Old May 13, 2009, 11:10 AM 3 #2 of 82
He probably feels it is significantly more prudent than dying.

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Old May 13, 2009, 11:33 AM 12 #3 of 82
The government cannot do things efficiently because there are Republicans in it.

No, no. Hear me out.

It is the Republican philosophical position to seek out "small government". In order to garner support for this position, they have to demonstrate that government is inefficient and corrupt. What is the best way to make the government appear inefficient and corrupt?

Be inefficient and corrupt yourself, and then become part of the government.

It is in the best interest of the Republican party's long-term policy goals to make every government agency other than the military look thoroughly bumbling and stupid.

There are dozens of examples in the wider world of government-run health services operating at a reasonable level of efficiency and solvency, so clearly the idea itself isn't intrinsically infeasible. There is something about OUR government that makes it seem implausible, and that something is a great plurality of rednecks with significantly more authority than they deserve.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

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Old May 13, 2009, 12:44 PM 8 #4 of 82
Yeah if you already have decent healthcare the prospect of a single-payer system reducing your quality of care becomes worrying.
There's no reason that a gov't-funded system needs to be the only game in town, you can have a single-payer system and and the clusterfuck of a private system we have now. That way if you have a shitload of money and you absolutely need an appointment today!!! you will have the option.

The idea that taxpayer-funded healthcare would immediately outlaw corporate healthcare is one of those hilarious bogeymen that I can only assume got its start in a talking points newsletter.

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Old May 13, 2009, 12:53 PM #5 of 82
Well, it's not free, it's just that the expense is distributed. Don't give anyone an opportunity to whine about IT'S NOT FREE I HAVE TO PAY FOR IT WITH 70% OF MY 7 MILLION A YEAR YOU ASSHOLE WHY IS THIS GOVERNMENT BLEEDING ME DRY

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old May 13, 2009, 01:02 PM #6 of 82
An underfunded system is still better than NO system, and NO system is what people with no insurance have.

Your position is, essentially, that we shouldn't bother paying to give soldiers helmets since the helmets might not always be effective at saving their lives.

I mean, look at that guy. Got shot in the kidneys. Why did my tax dollars go to these useless helmets

tea party ahoy

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Old May 13, 2009, 01:09 PM #7 of 82
Can we get a filter on the word "socialist" until people learn what it means? I suggest either "FANTASTIC" or "SWEDISH"

I'm guessing if I had the right insurance over there I could have resolved my issues much sooner.
I am skeptical, really. What sort of heart trouble was it? If it was something you were born with, the majority of insurers would either refuse to cover you entirely or else refuse to cover treatment of the heart condition on the basis that it was "pre-existing".

Okay looking at your journal it looks like it maybe had something to do with your drinking, so you would have been up the river on that one too.

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Old May 13, 2009, 01:24 PM 2 #8 of 82
The total 2009 budget for defense-related expenditures is about 1 trillion dollars. I think 10% of that would buy quite a bit of medicine, yeah.

Or do you think $900 billion is inadequate for our defense?

(who am I kidding, any number I could shoot out would be considered "inadequate" by the kind of person who labels anything he doesn't like as "socialism")

$900B is about $3000 for every single person in the country, or about $300K for each member of the military. I am fairly skeptical that this is an inadequate sum when dedicated to the purpose of blowing up random assholes in the desert.

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Old May 14, 2009, 08:47 AM 8 #9 of 82
It's like the same post Brady already made, but with the Douche and Wrong turned up to 300%.

Sir, do you have a goatee? Can you point me to the portal via which you entered our universe from your evil-aligned home?

Aren't you (sniffs disdainfully) a 'rapper' (finger quotes)

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Old Jul 26, 2009, 06:07 AM 1 #10 of 82
people who want to extend their life as long as possible DON't get needed care

D-

Extravagant claim, no sources cited

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